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Pro-Palestine protesters being their antisemitic selves ✨

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Because attacking American Jewish business owners is so great for the Palestinian cause, just like Hamas!

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NerdyPotato · M

Yeah, that's not the way to go about it. Condemn the Israeli government, boycott companies that actively enable them, but don't attack random Jews. That will just counteract everything the correct protests have achieved.

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helenS · 36-40, F

@Ozymandiaz ... because it's true. Israel isn't using enough force in Gaza. Hamas is not beaten yet, and Hamas [b]is[/b] Gaza.

#FuckGaza

BlueVeins · 22-25

@helenS Saying that Hamas is Gaza is such openly genocidal rhetoric. I've disagreed with you on this issue for a long time, but I feel like you've gone full hitler ever since the October 7th terrorist attack. Get a hold of yourself.

WandererTony · 56-60, M

@helenS Sorry, Hamas is not Gaza. There are Palestinians there. They are not allowed to have an army. And Hamas is the militant result of that frustration. True that they have gone overboard and become terrorists. But there is more to Gaza than Hamas. Lot more.

Pfuzylogic · M

What I find outrageous is when the Hamas terrorism is identified as “resistance”. Not sure what part of the universe the Hamas protestors are from.

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helenS · 36-40, F

@WandererTony Iran has killed more people than Gaza ever will, but ok, have a nice day.

WandererTony · 56-60, M

@helenS Iran is a much bigger country. China might have killed even more. Remember Tiananmen Square? Proves nothing.
Good Night 😴

helenS · 36-40, F

@WandererTony Night night 🌷

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

Just a note of correction. Judaism is a religion not a race. The Palestinians are probably more pure Semitic than the average Jew.

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NativePortlander1970

@Zeuro Exactly

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@NativePortlander1970 If we want to go back in history Jerusalem was taken militarily by David. It was not always Jewish. BTW Orthodox Jews disagree with the idea of a political Israel as we presently see it. Zionism is a Christian heresy.

BlueVeins · 22-25

Context:

[quote]There were political tensions simmering at Solomonov’s restaurants before Sunday’s march. The Guardian spoke to three Goldie workers who say they were fired due to their pro-Palestine advocacy: two who wore Palestinian flag pins in violation of a newly announced dress code that forbade non-Goldie branded adornments, and another who tweeted in support of Sunday’s street protest.

There were political tensions simmering at Solomonov’s restaurants before Sunday’s march. The Guardian spoke to three Goldie workers who say they were fired due to their pro-Palestine advocacy: two who wore Palestinian flag pins in violation of a newly announced dress code that forbade non-Goldie branded adornments, and another who tweeted in support of Sunday’s street protest.

And in early November, Solomonov’s Zahav hosted a private fundraiser by a prominent political action committee dedicated to supporting political candidates “who reflect Jewish values”. Attendees at the event, which has not been previously reported, included the Michigan governor, Gretchen Whitmer; and dozens of other pro-Israel officials and lobbyists, according to a current Zahav employee, who spoke on condition of anonymity. The employee said that in recent weeks, Solomonov had also booked and paid for multiple, lavish private dinners at Zahav for IDF members preparing to deploy to fight for Israel.[/quote]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/08/michael-solomonov-philadelphia-restaurant-israel-antisemitic-protest

Not defending the protesters here; protesting a restaurant owned by a zionist jew is still optics poison, and protesters of all people should know that the media will bury the context on shit like this.

Zeuro · 26-30, F

@BlueVeins frankly, even with the context the protest was still not in any way right or justified. I mean yeah, a Jewish man wants more Jewish and Jewish-allied politicians in office, so what? Christians do that stuff all the time for their own. Multiple republicans have literally been trashing, I kid you not, “the separation of church and state.”

BlueVeins · 22-25

@Zeuro I feel like it would be justified to protest a Christian business-owner who demands their workers support a Christian government such as that of Russia. That said, I think it would make more sense to frame that around ethnicity, considering that both Russia and Israel are engaged in ethnic projects rather than religious ones. So in that case, the comparison would be an ethnically Russian business owner demanding their workers support the Russian government.

IDK, I don't think it's a great idea in either case. The whole ethnic tensions propaganda has been very effective at riling people up, and it's easy to feed into that without intending to. I hate to optics frog like this, but I do think protesters have a duty to understand the ways in which they'll be misconstrued by the media, especially in this environment.

Abstraction · 61-69, M

Yes, they are making a basic human error: to lump everyone together.
So...
* [i]Some[/i] pro-Palestinian protestors confuse actions of the Israeli government with Jewish people. Most pro-Palestinian protestors are simply decrying the current war crimes of the Israeli government and constant inhuman treatment of the Palestinian people. These are not the actions of 'the Jewish people'. It's by the Israeli government.
* Many, but not all, Jewish people confuse the words and actions of Hamas with all Palestinians (eg, the mistaken idea that all Palestinians want to see Israel destroyed).
I speak as someone who has been in Israel, spent time in the West Bank and listened to people there also and have colleagues from both these places.

Most of the arguments on SW are from this same error. Statements about all Republicans, all 'leftists', all atheists, all feminists, all christians, all 'woke' people, all... anything where we look at extreme words and actions of a few and assign them to the entire group. It's just completely unintelligent, stupid, dumb, damaging.

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Zeuro · 26-30, F

@hippyjoe1955 link? What’s so offensive about a cross? Christians wear them all the time

Zeuro · 26-30, F

@Abstraction honestly the people that agree to move into the settlements are mostly extreme right-wingers. Most Israelis have no desire to expand into the West Bank.

I can’t wait for the day that Israeli liberals have enough government control that they give Palestine an inch, like ending the expansion of the settlements, sending more aid to Palestinian civilians, etc. of course even giving them back every single acre of Palestinian land that currently has settlements, that just won’t be enough to satisfy the extremists, but at least the international criticism of Israel that would remain would be more easily separated out from the healthy, productive criticisms that aren’t oozing with anti-Zionist contempt.

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Zeuro Go do some investigation. You think you need to discredit my sources not counter them with real information.

Rolexeo · 26-30, M

Oh pls, anything the jews don't like is "Anti-semitism oy vey!" 🙄 when Israel stops bombing innocent civilians we'll talk.

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Rolexeo · 26-30, M

@NativePortlander1970 Nah, I actually know how to fight, unlike you. You'd get your fucking face broken. Pipe down little pussy, you were never tough and you never will be.

wonkywinky · 51-55, M

@Rolexeo 🇮🇱😆

MethDozer · M

@wonkywinky The Bible isn't much different in that regard.

Ozymandiaz

A protest against a top Israel-born chef was called antisemitic. Staff tell a different story

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/08/michael-solomonov-philadelphia-restaurant-israel-antisemitic-protest

ASLAN · 26-30, M

Well he supports a genocide..if that's antisemitism then so be it .. are you supporting genocide like ''Isn't real'' do?

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ASLAN · 26-30, M

@Zeuro and how the Fuck do you know that .. oh wait .. you believed him because he's Jewish right ?
Why am I not surprised.

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MarkPaul · 26-30, M

@ASLAN @Zeuro Kids, let me lend my expertise as a voice of reason to ease the tension. It's what I do.

For the pro-Palestinians, what better way to get media attention then to take their protest to Jewish-owned business. It's what they want. On the other hand, how appropriate would it be for pro-Israelis to target a Palestinian-owned business?

Taking a broader look, Hamas which is largely (but not entirely) supported by the Palestinians conducted a terrorist raid on a peaceful Israeli music festival and then took hostages back to their enclave where they purposefully hide within the crowded civilian population. Understanding human behaviour (like I do), it's not that hard to understand why Israel is taking the stand that they are. On the other hand though, indiscriminate killing of civilians (that now include some of the Israeli hostages) can't be swiped away as justified without also considering the inhumanity of it. Again, relying on human behaviour, it is easy enough to resort to name-calling to support either side. Human behaviour though is not always productive, sane, or humane.

Terrorism can't be allowed to become part of established society. Civilian killing to stop terrorism can't be tolerated either. And, choosing one side or the other with name-calling is hardly a solution.

FreeSpirit1 · 51-55, F

Morons

Shorethingbabe1 · F

Yall always playing victim. Hush

Puppycat23 · F

All it did was make his place be known for new customers. And by the looks of it the food looks really good.

Muthafukajones · 46-50, M

Oh no!

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Muthafukajones · 46-50, M

@Zeuro I had a Jewish gf for years and still really like her. I asked her what antisemitism was about as there aren’t many Jews where I live and I’ve never had problems with them or understood the hatred. She didn’t really have an explanation for me. It seems to be an unknown hatred.

Zeuro · 26-30, F

@Muthafukajones it’s definitely a complicated subject. Jew hatred is almost as old as time and can take many forms

Muthafukajones · 46-50, M

@Zeuro they are good people. It shouldn’t be like that.

TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 41-45, MVIP

American joos will vote orange if they dont nip this in the bud.. quickish..

sascha · F

@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Probably not. Some of these wounds are self-inflicted.

If you do not like what certain groups represent, you must stop voting for those who support them, or do nothing about them. Voting for progressive policies will bring these consequences. Supporting immigration, ignoring lack of cultural assimilation, encouraging "diversity" are all ways some Jews have caused harm, including, and particularly at present, to their own.

Zeuro · 26-30, F

@sascha encouraging diversity has never been harmful in anyway

sascha · F

@Zeuro Why do you think this? Why should we encourage diversity?

What is true diversity, to you? There does not seem to be acceptance of diverse views.

NativePortlander1970

Too bad Mossad and Shin Bet can't come over here and take out their leaders too.

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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@WandererTony

WandererTony · 56-60, M

@sunsporter1649
It is so apparent who the trigger happy idiots are in the eyes of Hamas. Tell me, if they cannot identify their own, can they differentiate between the innocent Palestinian and the Hamas??!

https://m.economictimes.com/news/defence/israeli-military-says-it-mistakenly-killed-3-israeli-hostages-in-gaza/articleshow/106032513.cms

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@WandererTony And we all know those brave raghead terrorists you so adore are hiding behind innocent civilians and kidnap victims, do we not?

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