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Whose right to "Stand Your Ground" takes precedence?

"Texas has one of the strongest 'Stand Your Ground' laws of self-defense that cannot be nullified by a jury or a progressive District Attorney," Abbott said in a tweet. “I will work as swiftly as Texas law allows regarding the pardon of Sgt. Perry.” . . . .

Perry, an Army sergeant, was working as an Uber driver in Austin on the night of July 25, 2020, when he ran a red light at an intersection downtown and drove into a Black Lives Matter march before stopping.

Garrett Foster, carrying an AK-47 rifle, was among a group of protesters who approached his car. Perry told police that Foster threatened him by raising the barrel of his rifle at him, so he shot him five times with a .357 revolver through the window of his car before driving away.

--USA Today

If someone runs a redlight to ram their car into you, aren't you standing your ground by raising your AR-15?
Pretzel · 61-69, M
that makes no sense

perry was the aggressor

aggressors don't get stand your ground

I know in Florida had Foster shot and killed him to protect others he would have walked.
MethDozer · M
@Pretzel I hear ya, but still kinda disagree. Especially a military trained individual should understand trigger discipline and putting others at risk through overkilling.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@Pretzel there are no high powered assault rifles
Pretzel · 61-69, M
@MasterLee thanks for the clarification
Slade · 56-60, M
It's an AK-47. Lame, disingenuous attempt at virtue signaling.

If someone comes up and aims a fully auto weapon (AK 47) at me you better believe he is getting ventilated.

Woo-Hoo!
Rights exist, talking rationally about them is important -. Guns aren't among the rights.
USA is no joke! It's not going to exist along with human rights!
We lost.
MethDozer · M
@Roundandroundwego You're not making your point very well that rights aren't human constructs and whatever we choose and fight them to be.


Try making a point instead of framing vacuous questions. Questions aren't points.
MethDozer · M
@Roundandroundwego Make a statement that shows rights exist beyond whatever a spciety says they are and fights for.

1,2,3..... go!!!! Burden of proof
MethDozer · M
@Roundandroundwego
Being a crappy reader is really likely when the USA is getting debunked. Especially online.
you call these sentences and have the balls to question someone's reading skills???

🤣
Slade · 56-60, M
Crappy writing. It says nothing of whether he hit anyone. Most likely no since the leftist paper would be wailing over any scratch on a criminal
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
This is why the USA is so fucked up about gun and god culture. Fuck that shit.
Slade · 56-60, M
@zonavar68 What a genius!
When some guy points a AK-47 at you in the ‘I’m gunna shoot you now’ position..

Pew pew pew.. fair play
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
There's no blanket answer. Each case has to be evaluated independent from the others.
akindheart · 61-69, F
It has to be determined if perry deliberately.rammed him.or not. Foster had no right to point a gun. Perry fired in self defense
MethDozer · M
@akindheart
Foster attended an Austin protest on July 25 while Perry was downtown driving for Uber. According to police, Perry stopped his car and honked at people protesting while they walked through the street, blocks from the state Capitol. Seconds later, he drove his car into the crowd, police said.

Foster, who was a 28-year-old white man and an Air Force veteran, had been seen openly carrying an AK-47 rifle at the time, which is legal. There are conflicting accounts as to whether Foster raised the rifle to the driver first — but seconds later Perry, who was also legally armed, shot and killed Foster and fled the area, police said. He called the police and reported what happened, claiming he shot in self defense after Foster aimed his weapon at him. Perry is also a white man.

The case sparked debates over Texas’ “stand your ground” law, which allows people to use deadly force against someone else if they feel they are in danger. But Perry’s social media posts about retaliating against protesters raised questions about the shooter’s state of mind and his self-defense claim.

The “stand your ground” law prohibits an individual from arguing self-defense if they provoked a threat from someone else. Witnesses said that Perry seemed to drive threateningly into the crowd before shots were fired, and his actions seemed intentional



Self defense my ass.
akindheart · 61-69, F
@MethDozer 2 pts and as usual. You pick a fight . Conflicting accts? Of course when it works ti your advantage and secondly i went by what was posted
Slade · 56-60, M
@dancingtongue

The gun was raised at a heavy vehicle that just ran a red light and is bearing down on him and a crowd of others. Isn't that self defense?

It said he was stopped liar. Leftists will do ANYTHING to defend their pathology
No rights for the people in the BLM march. Perry can run the red light, mow some people down, put in motion a series of events where he kills someone and flees and this is the Man Abbott wants to pardon.
Ynotisay · M
He was found guilty of murder so...
Just wonder where Abbot is coming from on this one though. Outside of the "progressive DA" shit. DA's don't determine guilt or innocence.
MethDozer · M
Perry is clearly the agressor.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@MethDozer And he was among a group of BLM demonstrators, so therefore free game in some quarters.
MethDozer · M
@dancingtongue Yeah, no doubt. Between him being military, the location, and the group it was against I'm sure he will get it reversed and comended a hero.

 
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