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Why are democrats not allowing voting machines to be examined?

Because they are too fragile or because they are hiding evidence of fraud? Millions of Americans are not stupid, they know what is going on.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/hiding-democrats-argue-voting-machines-fragile-inspect-investigators-touch-will-need-replaced-demand-rudy-giuliani-punished-requesting-access-dom/

[b]What Are They Hiding? Democrats Argue Voting Machines Too Fragile to Inspect – If Investigators Touch Them They WIll Need to Be Replaced – Demand Rudy Giuliani Be Punished for Requesting Access to Dominion Machines
By Jim Hoft
Published February 9, 2022 at 6:54pm


Joe Biden got 81 million votes.
It really happened.
Democrats and their media lackeys are so certain of this that they will not allow anyone to inspect the voting machines.

** In Arizona Democrat Secretary of State Katie Hobbs argued that Maricopa County would be forced to replace their Dominion voting machines if they were inspected by investigators. The machines were so delicate that they can never be audited. That’s weird?
Also in Arizona election workers were caught on video deleting “archived” files before the machines were turned over to investigators.

** In Pennsylvania the state Supreme Court of liberal activists stepped in at the last minute and delayed an inspection of the Fulton County, Pennsylvania voting machines. The audit is still delayed by the state Supreme Court. Democrats are ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIED that a reputable audit team may inspect the county’s Dominion voting machines.

** And in Michigan the radical Attorney General hid the audit of the Dominion machines in Antrim County where 6,000 votes were mysteriously flipped from Trump to Joe Biden.

Democrats want you to know inspecting Dominion Voting Machines IS NOT ALLOWED!
But Joe Biden got 81 million votes.

And now the fake news mainstream media is running with a ridiculous story that Rudy Giuliani asked to inspect an Antrim County Dominion voting machines after they spit out fake results following the election. Democrat and their media lackeys insist this is likely criminal activity. How dare Rudy Giuliani or any Republican request an audit on such a fragile, sophisticated machine.

Are Americans going to fall for this?
Isn’t it clear what the Democrats are doing?
Why are they so afraid of audits?



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How do you define an audit, seriously?

Fragility is an interesting thing to bring up in this context, because I think you'll find that basic concepts like facts, truth and honesty no longer seem to have as much universal meaning as they used to.

I cringe when I hear "speaking my truth," just like I do when I hear people talk about "alternate facts."

"Independent" non- destructive audits and inspections sound great to me, within reason, but you've still got to draw the line at some point when people just want more and more of them and have to wonder about destroying the system being the result and even the motivation.

But bad faith partisan audits (maybe call them "witch hunts" where the subjects of the inquiry get "drowned" or tampered with) are another story.

Call me an elitist, but I don't think every Tom, Dick and Harry (especially those with grudges, political or monetary motivations) should have his or her chance to tamper with the machinery .


That's about as serious as I can get, I think, about a GatewayPundit inspired post.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@MistyCee [quote]"Independent"[/quote]

The inverted commas do a lot of heavy lifting there. 👍
@Burnley123 Yeah, I know, but no one seems to think parisan audits are worth much.
AbbeyRhode · F
Sure, that's believable; a machine that's transported all over, and used by the general public, is too delicate to even be looked at. People should be insulted that the Democrats believe they are stupid enough to buy that. At least, those of us who aren't liberals, who actually ARE stupid enough to buy that. 😁
Your claim is an opinion piece lacking factual evidentiary support

Democrats ARE allowing voting machines to be examined. They are all examined, tested and certified.
New York: [b]https://www.elections.ny.gov/HAVAVotingMachines.html[/b]
California: [b]https://www.sos.ca.gov/administration/regulations/current-regulations/elections/voting-system-certification-regulations[/b]
New Jersey: [b]https://www.state.nj.us/state/elections/resources-voting-equipment.shtml[/b]
Colorado; [b]https://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/elections/Resources/files/ElectionFactSheet-ProtectionOfVotingSystems.pdf[/b]


How many more states would you like me to list???
@marke And this pointless lawsuit went nowhere, right?

You ignored my posts about Georgia signature audits, Georgia hand counts, etc, right??
marke · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues [quote]You ignored my posts about Georgia signature audits, Georgia hand counts, etc, right??
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Signature verification was a problem in GA but so were missing voting logs and ballot images, meaning tens of thousands of ballots cannot now be verified as legitimate. There is no excuse for missing images and logs required by law for ballot legitimacy verification purposes.
@marke An opinion piece lacking factual evidentiary support
Zonuss · 41-45, M
We all know that [b] Republicans [/b] are too stupid to accept reality. You lost the [b]2020[/b] election fair and square. Stop creating obstructionist voter identification laws and maybe people will take you seriously. 🙂
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@marke False again. No charges filed. Supreme Court is far more credible than you will ever be. Get real sir. You lost. Loser. ☺️
marke · 70-79, M
@Zonuss [quote]False again. No charges filed. Supreme Court is far more credible than you will ever be. Get real sir. You lost. Loser. ☺️[/quote]

What has the SCOTUS ruled, that Trump conspired with right-wingers to commit murder and mayhem on Jan 6? You are wrong if that is what you think.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@marke No. You're just out of touch with [b] reality.[/b]
graphite · 61-69, M
So they can steal elections. Take away the cheating factor and we Republicans know this election is going to be a wipeout in our favor. But we can't take away the cheating factor. Tuesday night - Republican candidate is winning handily; by Friday morning - Democrat wins.
Vin53 · M
This 2 year debacle of making claims with zero-evidence is brought to you by Sore Losers Inc.

"When you absolutely can't accept facts that don't fit your narrative"
marke · 70-79, M
@Vin53 [quote]You don't even have evidence that a crime was committed!

The ONLY thing you have toothless accusations you're desperately praying will find a crime and I'm here to tell you, definitively, its just isn't going to happen.

You're going to your grave never accepting the reality that you and trump are losers.[/quote]

More than a few crooks have already been convicted for committing voter fraud in 2020 and more investigations continue.
Vin53 · M
So 5 voters, all Republican, equals a mass conspiracy across the US to turn the election?

Do you even listen to yourself?

@marke
marke · 70-79, M
@Vin53
[quote]You don't even have evidence that a crime was committed!
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You are right about large democrat precincts where democrats control all access to the evidence and refuse to allow republicans access. Republicans have found no evidence of fraud where democrats have been successful in blocking their investigations.
Hikingguy · 56-60, M
Like I have been saying. Everyone is talking about the red wave. Well the left will do everything and anything to keep that from happening.
This is their MO. Cheat their way into power.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@marke You really should be writing essays on the history and analysis of National politics. Your omniscience Is wasted here.
Riverman2 · 56-60, M
@Riverman2 I really wish that I was wrong but I wasn't. There can be no "red wave" so long as the vote counting is corrupt.
Hikingguy · 56-60, M
@Riverman2 true story.
Northwest · M
It's as if you have no clue what's been going on. The Arizona republicans had yet another recount done, they called it an audit, and it actually gave the Democrat more votes. Yet, you continue to repeat the same lies. The only Americans falling for this, are your kind.

Why do you continue regurgitating Faux News and Mar-a-Lardo without doing any fact checking? Pretend you have a working brain.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Northwest 😂 They don't have brains.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
They can’t win an honest election is why.
Your cyber ninja forensic audit was one of the most humiliating defeats for the election liars in American history.

If you had a modicum of self respect and awareness you would hide your head in shame,
marke · 70-79, M
@Ryderbike
[quote]There is a reason your multi billionaire God hasn’t spent a nickel on a voter fraud investigation.
Because he knows
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God does not need to pay for investigations and democrats must continue to fight against investigations if they want the facts of fraud to remain hidden.
@marke

God? Lol now trump is God ?


Rofl
marke · 70-79, M
@Ryderbike [quote]God? Lol now trump is God ?
[/quote]

Contrary to how the heathen seem to think, men, no matter how famous or powerful, are just fragile as grasshoppers compared to God.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
The news site you linked is extremely funny holy shit I can't believe grownups read this.
Same reason they don’t want voter id.
Or verified ballots..

They’ll lose else wise
Graylight · 51-55, F
Maybe it’s because we don’t need Karen and her band of unqualified touching voting ballots and touching equipment, especially given the recent past.

‘We want to’ doesn’t equate to ‘get to.’
We only preach transparency..
Not practice it… sheesh
Nimbus · M
They are too difficult for liberals to use?
akindheart · 61-69, F
you nailed it. they are afraid their fraud will be discovered.
melbeacher · 56-60, M
@akindheart No I completely disagree. His own attorney General Bill Barr said there was no fraud. The FBI said there was no fraud. The Republican governors and state attorney generals and election supervisors all said no fraud. NO ONE has produced any real evidence. All his court cases were thrown out due to NO EVIDENCE. TRUMP LOST.
marke · 70-79, M
@melbeacher [quote] No I completely disagree. His own attorney General Bill Barr said there was no fraud. The FBI said there was no fraud. The Republican governors and state attorney generals and election supervisors all said no fraud. NO ONE has produced any real evidence. All his court cases were thrown out due to NO EVIDENCE. TRUMP LOST.
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Bill Barr can say what he likes but that does not make him right. Sadly, he has shown that he does not even understand what voting fraud is.

Bill Barr's Bald-Faced Lies About Voter Fraud - LA Progressive

[b]Bill Barr's Bald-Faced Lies About Voter Fraud
"Unfortunately, it speaks volumes to the credibility of Attorney General Barr when he submits half-truths and alternative facts as clear evidence of voter fraud without having so much as even contacted me or the district attorney's office for an understanding of the events that actually occurred."

'That's Not What Happened at All,' Say Prosecutors After Barr Falsely Claims Man Cast 1,700 Fake Ballots in Texas

Attorney General William Barr speaks during a press conference on January 13, 2020 in Washington, D.C. (Photo: Win McNamee/Getty Images)
As Attorney General William Barr faced renewed calls for his impeachment after claiming not to know whether it's illegal for a U.S. voter to cast two ballots in a federal election, prosecutors and journalists have caught the nation's top law enforcement officer in a "massive falsehood" about a mail-in ballot fraud case in Texas.

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@marke [quote]
Bill Barr can say what he likes but that does not make him right.
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I most heartily agree with you on this one.
TexChik · F
Blue state BS
TexChik · F
Because then everyone would know they are cheating? They claim to be transparent, but the only thing transparent about democrats is that they know they cant win a fair election.
justanothername · 51-55, M
Voting machines were actually pulled apart and inspected by a group of hackers during a recent DEFCON hackathon in Las Vegas. Afterwards one of the hackers was asked if there was any signs of tampering to which he answered
NO.
justanothername · 51-55, M
@marke There’s an interesting comparison between computing and republicans. With computing you only need to punch the instruction set in once to enable the function to execute. With Republicans they are too stupid to make punching instructions worth the effort.
marke · 70-79, M
@justanothername When government agencies are calling on hackers for help you can bet they are up to no good.
justanothername · 51-55, M
@marke You are off your meds.
Riverman2 · 56-60, M
Great post. This is why I am skeptical about the "red wave". I hope that I am totally wrong about this.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
Keep inspecting them until you get the result you want. Orange is the new black. 😜
FreestyleArt · 31-35, M
We should never have these damn Machines in the first place
marke · 70-79, M
@FreestyleArt[quote] We should never have these damn Machines in the first place[/quote]

Since voting machines are widely used in national elections it should be against the law for democrats to totally control them from pre-programming through managing them during the election and refusing to allow them to be investigated after the election.
Majorsite · 61-69, M
Democrats have elevated election fraud to an art form.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
Yeah! And, why are insurrectionists too fragile to submit proof of their conspiracies in the form of legal logic? And, what about that audit in Arizona funded by taxpayers that proved the accuracy of the vote count. And, what about those 3 manual counts in Georgia? And, how do we really know the earth is round?
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@marke And, let's not dismiss those Italian satellites (Satellite Tracking Journal) that sent synchronized signals to non-networked voting machines and literally changed the votes... but only for President. I suppose the signal wasn't strong enough to change the votes on other candidates on the ballot. But, that's besides the point because we literally have the evidence that the votes were changed.

It's time we stop depending on electronics altogether. Am I right?
marke · 70-79, M
@MarkPaul[quote] And, let's not dismiss those Italian satellites (Satellite Tracking Journal) that sent synchronized signals to non-networked voting machines and literally changed the votes... but only for President. I suppose the signal wasn't strong enough to change the votes on other candidates on the ballot. But, that's besides the point because we literally have the evidence that the votes were changed.

It's time we stop depending on electronics altogether. Am I right?
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As long as the democrats have presented themselves as a lawless party opposed to God and American patriotism, Americans will never be able to take their unsupported word that the ballot dumps for democrats are valid and must be accepted without question as legitimate.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@marke And, as long as the demon-craps show themselves as against American values like being against insurrection, opposed to beating up cops on duty, and being for decency then we can never trust them. And, don't get me started on how they make a big deal out of people who pay for abortions to erase their own bad behaviour while claiming they are against abortions for everyone else. No one is perfect and the demon-craps trying to turn hypocrites like that into villains is unforgivable. And, don't even get me started on how they have a problem with shooting protesters in the kneecaps or attempting to kidnap a Governor. I mean if you can't kidnap a Governor you are against what are they going to come after next... our guns? Well, that's not going to happen. Not on my mindless watch.
The earth is flat too.
smiler2012 · 56-60
{@marke] 🤷‍♂️ based on what actual proof these voting machines are rigged . if it is the fact they are being stopped from examining them do you not thing that is a flimsy accusation
TrashCat · M
I can't say anything more than what's been said. You have been declared officially owned
Vin53 · M
Nothing more than contrived accusations looking for a crime.
Ryannnnnn · 31-35, M
I wouldn't get "news" from here my dude haha. Front page is kissing elon musks ass, calling a protester a crack pot whilst also being about freedom apparently (the crackpots are the people not concerned about the imminent death of the human race), I saw a hyperlink to "americangulag" 😅

Maybe use it for talking points but do some research elsewhere..it's not good.
melbeacher · 56-60, M
Dude you watch way too much Fox news !
False premise question..
Hey, let us know when you find even up a SINGLE ONE of the alleged ballots printed by foreign countries!
What's that? After two years, after Cyber Ninjas checking every ballot with a microscope, you guys never found a SINGLE ONE of the alleged ballots printed by foreign countries?? [b]LOL!!![/b]

If the machines were altering the count like Trump claimed, how come the hand count matched the machine count so closely???
[quote]In all, there were 126 counties within 10 votes of their original vote tally, according to the audit data. Of those counties, 54 counties matched their initial results exactly. No county had an error rate higher than 0.73% compared to their original results.[/quote]
https://www.ajc.com/politics/breaking-georgia-manual-recount-confirms-biden-victory/B7LNNHYZOVGKZBUVAT7NZT3VZE/
@marke So no ballots printed by foreign countries then. Trump was DEAD WRONG about this, LOL!!!

And the security procedures are detecting duplicate ballots and removing from the count. Thanks for pointing this out!

[big]There is no indication the double-counted ballots influenced the final total votes for either former President Donald Trump or President Joe Biden.[/big]
marke · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues [quote]There is no indication the double-counted ballots influenced the final total votes for either former President Donald Trump or President Joe Biden.
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There is no indication these leftist investigators could find a duplicate ballot in a room full of duplicate ballots.
@marke An opinion piece lacking factual evidentiary support

BTW, Thanks for coining that phrase - it really comes in handy for responding to your evidence-free opinions that you try to slide in.
justanothername · 51-55, M
Voting machines were examined by hackers at a hacking conference in Las Vegas and no signs of any fraud was discovered.
Who cares? You have methane leaking fast from the pipeline and endless wars. What more do you need?
cycleman · 61-69, M
Ask Trump the same.

Everyone else does!
And just who will "inspect" these voting machines, those yahoos with neck beards from meal team 6, dressed in their tactical gear?
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Certainly not you fool. @independentone
@jackjjackson Aren't you the one who claimed, with the poor writing skills, that you stuffed your wife in a ballot box?

No one takes you serious jjackson or budwick or whatever account you are currently using
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Correct. You’re a nobody. @independentone
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@marke Still crying about [b]2020. [/b]
Try winning elections that matter. The last [b]red wave[/b] gave us [b]4 [/b] more years of Obama. By the way they are still chanting his name. 😂
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Graylight What do you mean. Don't be cryptic.
Graylight · 51-55, F
That’s cryptic to you? @Zonuss
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Graylight To be clear. I believe that the Far Right Extremities in this country is setting a very dangerous trend right now. And if Trump just so happens to be reelected it will be a catastrophe.
🙂
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Zonuss · 41-45, M
Fake news 🗞️
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