Politics & News

Only logged in members can reply and interact with the post.
Join SimilarWorlds for FREE »

Seth Rich proves Trump innocent and democrats guilty

Seth Rich was murdered shortly after Assange announced he had obtained a trove of DNC emails showing dirty DNC secrets. That theft of DNC emails enraged Hillary and her campaign team. What do we know about Seth Rich? He was a Sanders supporter who was offended by the crooked way Hillary and the DNC stacked the deck against Bernie Sanders. What does Rich prove?

Rich proved the democrats lied about the emails, Trump, and the involvement of the DC police and the FBI in the coverup of the murder. The FBI lied about having Rich's computer. The DC police claimed Rich was murdered on the street in a robbery, but the DC police did not report that someone broke into Rich's apartment and stole his computer. When asked about Rich's computer the FBI lied, claiming it did not have it. The democrats claimed Trump colluded with Russia to steal the emails, but that was proven to have been a deliberate lie. Robert Mueller was hired to get to the bottom of the email theft but he never found out who stole the emails and he never looked into the Seth Rich connection to the case in spite of Assange suggesting it was Rich who exfiltrated the emails.

Rich proves the democrats lied about Rich and his murder and then lied about Trump, and that proves the democrats colluded to lie about what really happened in the exfiltration of the emails.

Top | Newest First | Oldest First

akindheart · 61-69, F

I LOVE THIS STORY. nice summary. now lets get them all in jail.

ElwoodBlues · M

@marke says [quote]Mueller never found how the DNC emails were exfiltrated from the DNC to Assange and never did CrowdStrike. Anyone claiming otherwise is lying.[/quote]

You can deny all you like, but Mueller found out plenty via metadata on files found on the computers of Russian hackers. He found out who stole emails from DNC computers and gave the emails to wikileaks. It's all in the Mueller report.

[u]Mueller Report Volume 1, p 41-51; U.S. v. Viktor Netyksho, et al[/u]
Summarizing:

Russian hackers from the GRU, the Kremlin’s military-intelligence directorate, conducted multiple rounds of hacking that resulted in the theft of sensitive data and emails from the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta.

They gained access to the servers of the Democratic National Committee as early as the summer of 2015; John Podesta’s emails were compromised in March 2016.

Russian intelligence worked with a cutout, WikiLeaks, to disseminate the stolen information.

Metadata on files found on the computers of Russian hackers suggests that they had completed their transfer of emails stolen from John Podesta’s inbox to WikiLeaks in mid-September 2016.

On September 20, 2016, after Russia transferred files to WikiLeaks, members of the same Russian military-intelligence unit “also successfully gained access to DNC computers hosted on a third-party cloud-computing service. These computers contained test applications related to the DNC’s analytics,” which the hackers copied and stole.

You can also read Mueller's indictment regarding email theft here:
[b]https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:U.S._v._Viktor_Borisovich_Netyksho,_et_al,_Indictment.pdf
[/b]

[sep][sep][sep]

@marke says [quote] Crowdstrike said they had no idea how the emails were exfiltrated from the DNC but tended to think maybe those who speculate the Russians did it may be right, but nobody knows for sure.[/quote]
CrowdStrike disagrees with you.

[quote][b]Did CrowdStrike have proof that Russia hacked the DNC?[/b]

Yes, and this is also supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and independent Congressional reports.

Following a comprehensive investigation that CrowdStrike detailed publicly, the company concluded in May 2016 that two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries breached the DNC network.[/quote]
[b]https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/[/b]

Note the source of the link! Crowstrike itself is saying they have proof Russia hacked the DNC.

View 14 more replies »

Driver2 · M

@ElwoodBlues muller was as incoherent as your empty suit in the white house
Did you here him testify ?

marke · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues[quote] Democrats claim the reason they cannot prove their allegations of Russian hacking
WRONG!!!

You really should read at least the CrowdStrike (your chosen source of expertise) blog post I linked you to. Here, I'll quote it again:

Did CrowdStrike have proof that Russia hacked the DNC?

Yes, and this is also supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and independent Congressional reports.

Following a comprehensive investigation that CrowdStrike detailed publicly, the company concluded in May 2016 that two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries breached the DNC network.

CrowdStrike says they have PROOF. Take your argument them.[/quote]

Unlike democrats, I refuse to accept alleged proof as real proof without real proof. How can they prove Russians hacked the DNC computers if they do not prove it?

ElwoodBlues · M

@marke CrowdStrike (your chosen source of expertise) proved it based on evidence. You, of course, will continue to deny and continue to move the goalposts. However, Your original claim was
[quote]Mueller was not looking to solve the DNC email exfiltration[/quote]
And that's been proven false.

You next claimed [quote]Mueller never found how the DNC emails were exfiltrated from the DNC to Assange and never did CrowdStrike. [/quote]
That claim has also been proven false. CrowdStrike, (your chosen source of expertise) says they find out who stole the emails. And they say so in this blog post:

[b]https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/
[/b]

But go ahead, keep trying to move the goalposts!!

Graylight · 51-55, F

Well, thank God the mystery's finally been solved. Thanks, Shag.

[center][image][/center]

ElwoodBlues · M

You've got new evidence??

I didn't think so!!!

[quote]After Seth's death, figures friendly to former President Donald Trump portrayed him as a disgruntled Bernie Sanders supporter. They peddled false claims that he had secretly stolen thousands of emails and given them to WikiLeaks to try to stop Hillary Clinton from winning the presidency. They suggested Clinton and the Democrats had arranged his killing. And that the Riches themselves were in on some kind of cover-up. WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange fueled the suspicions, aided by such extremist blogs as Gateway Pundit.

None of this was true. As intelligence agencies in the Obama and Trump administrations, the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee and special counsel Robert Mueller concluded, hackers were deployed by the Russian government to disrupt U.S. elections. But the falsehoods helped deflect growing evidence that the Russians had interfered in Trump's election win.

. . .

After Seth's death, figures friendly to former President Donald Trump portrayed him as a disgruntled Bernie Sanders supporter. They peddled false claims that he had secretly stolen thousands of emails and given them to WikiLeaks to try to stop Hillary Clinton from winning the presidency. They suggested Clinton and the Democrats had arranged his killing. And that the Riches themselves were in on some kind of cover-up. WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange fueled the suspicions, aided by such extremist blogs as Gateway Pundit.

None of this was true. As intelligence agencies in the Obama and Trump administrations, the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee and special counsel Robert Mueller concluded, hackers were deployed by the Russian government to disrupt U.S. elections. But the falsehoods helped deflect growing evidence that the Russians had interfered in Trump's election win.

. . .

Among others offering aid as the Riches recoiled from Burkman was a Fox News commentator and investment adviser named Ed Butowsky. He offered to hire a private detective at his own expense to try to help them solve the case. Without their knowledge, Butowsky pressured the private investigator, who was also a Fox News commentator, to develop evidence that Seth Rich had fed the emails to WikiLeaks as a way of lifting any taint of Russian involvement in Trump's win.

In an interview in August 2017, Butowsky told me that he believed he was helping the Riches by showing their son was a whistleblower against Clinton and the Democrats. Instead, they were outraged.

"This whole blown-up BS has taken the eye off the ball" of the investigation, Mary Rich told me back then. "[That] just buckles me to my knees that they've damaged so much of trying to find who his murderer is."
[/quote]

View 12 more replies »

marke · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues [quote]After Seth's death, figures friendly to former President Donald Trump portrayed him as a disgruntled Bernie Sanders supporter. They peddled false claims that he had secretly stolen thousands of emails and given them to WikiLeaks to try to stop Hillary Clinton from winning the presidency. They suggested Clinton and the Democrats had arranged his killing. And that the Riches themselves were in on some kind of cover-up. WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange fueled the suspicions, aided by such extremist blogs as Gateway Pundit.
[/quote]

Trump's testimony is an opinion. The congressional record of Shawn Henry's sworn testimony is a recorded fact.

marke · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues [quote]You've chided me for lack of evidence despite what your chosen authoritative CrowdStrike reported about having proof of Russian hackers based on metadata. Or are you abandoning CrowdStrike now that you've discovered they don't actually say what you thought they said??

Democrats have been covering up facts about Rich's death because they murdered Rich for giving Assange secret emails.
So where's your evidence? Seriously, do you have a SHRED of evidence to support that claim?? Or is it just another evidence-free conspiracy theory???
[/quote]

Making allegations is a far distance away from proving those allegations. Guccifer 1.0 was caught, tried, and jailed.

Nobody has been caught, tried, and jailed for delivering DNC emails to Assange, proving those making allegations against Russians are unable to prove those allegations in court.

ElwoodBlues · M

@marke Have patience. Assange is headed this way via British extradition. He sure went out of his way to avoid answering questions in the US.

BTW, IP addresses reveal "Guccifer 2.0" was a GRU officer who chose a name in an attempt to misdirect.

[quote]An anonymous source close to the U.S. government investigation of the hacker told the Daily Beast that on one single occasion, Guccifer 2.0 failed to log into the usual VPN that disguised their traffic. As a result, they left one honest IP trace at an unnamed social media site.

That IP address, “identified Guccifer 2.0 as a particular GRU officer working out of the agency’s headquarters on Grizodubovoy Street in Moscow,” the Daily Beast reported. (The GRU is one of the Russia’s security and intelligence organs.)[/quote]
[b]https://techcrunch.com/2018/03/22/more-evidence-ties-guccifer-2-0-to-russian-intelligence/[/b]

"Guccifer 2.0" is one of the 13 Russians indicted by Mueller. Again you are depending on obsolete superseded reports.

BizSuitStacy · M

Last Thursday, a federal judge ordered the FBI to hand over the information on Rich's laptop within 14 days. This should get intetesting.

marke · 70-79, M

@BizSuitStacy

The democrat mob has its crooked supporters in the judiciary as well.

BizSuitStacy · M

@marke You're right. Nothing may materialize.

MistyCee

Can you explain [i]How[/i] Rich proved anything you say he proves?

Factual assertions aside, I'm not even seeing your logic.

View 5 more replies »

marke · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues

You cannot find in the Mueller report the name of a single hacker or info on how that hacker supposedly stole the DNC emails and delivered them to Assange. Democrats invented fake conspiracy theories and fake crooks to blame the exfiltration of the emails on, but it was Seth Rich who gave the emails to Assange. No government agency anywhere has given us the name of any other person who might have done it instead.

ElwoodBlues · M

@marke Lemme just quote crowdstrike:
[quote][b]Did CrowdStrike have proof that Russia hacked the DNC?[/b]

Yes, and this is also supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and independent Congressional reports.

Following a comprehensive investigation that CrowdStrike detailed publicly, the company concluded in May 2016 that two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries breached the DNC network.[/quote]
[b]https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/[/b]

Note the source of the link! Crowstrike itself is saying they have proof Russia hacked the DNC.

You haven't provided a [i]single[/i] link to back up your claims. You seem to be badly misrepresenting crowdstrike's statements. Maybe you want to clear that up?

MistyCee

@marke @ElwoodBlues Just out of curiosity, is your username going to disappear when Elwood's done with you?

Elessar · 26-30, M

Keep dreaming

Mamapolo2016 · F

In my opinion, it's far past time to recognize they're all guilty, those who commit crimes and those who let them.

We need to start over.

Driver2 · M

@Mamapolo2016 well said

soar2newhighs

Sadly this man was killed. There’s more to this story than we know.

Graylight · 51-55, F

@soar2newhighs Which means we don't know the story at all.

[quote]His murder spawned several right-wing conspiracy theories, including the false claim, contradicted by the law enforcement branches that investigated the murder, that Rich had been involved with the leaked DNC emails in 2016. It was also contradicted by the July 2018 indictment of 12 Russian military intelligence agents for hacking the e-mail accounts and networks of Democratic Party officials and by the U.S. intelligence community's conclusion the leaked DNC emails were part of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections. Fact-checking websites like PolitiFact, Snopes and FactCheck.org stated that the theories were false and unfounded.The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times and The Washington Post wrote that the promotion of these conspiracy theories was an example of fake news.[/quote]

Zonuss · 41-45, M

Not true. Just another [b]fake[/b] news skit that will put you Cons further in the hole. 🙂

View 6 more replies »

Zonuss · 41-45, M

@marke Prove your claims.🙂

marke · 70-79, M

@Zonuss
I asked you to prove your claims first.

Zonuss · 41-45, M

@marke You prove yours. I seriously doubt that you can. 🙂

ElwoodBlues · M

@marke says [quote] The congressional record of Shawn Henry's sworn testimony is a recorded fact.[/quote]

True. But. Check your dates. Shawn Henry testified in Dec 2017. Mueller Report was released April 18, 2019. CrowdStrike's blog post is dated June 5, 2020.

Shawn Henry's statements in Dec 2017 were a snapshot at the time. With more data and more time, CrowdStrike completed their analysis. That's when they published the following:
[quote][b]Did CrowdStrike have proof that Russia hacked the DNC?[/b]

Yes, and this is also supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and independent Congressional reports.

Following a comprehensive investigation that CrowdStrike detailed publicly, the company concluded in May 2016 that two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries breached the DNC network.

To reference, CrowdStrike’s account of their DNC investigation, published on June 14, 2016, “CrowdStrike Services Inc., our Incident Response group, was called by the Democratic National Committee (DNC), the formal governing body for the US Democratic Party, to respond to a suspected breach. We deployed our IR team and technology and immediately identified two sophisticated adversaries on the network – COZY BEAR and FANCY BEAR…. At DNC, COZY BEAR intrusion has been identified going back to summer of 2015, while FANCY BEAR separately breached the network in April 2016.”

This conclusion has most recently been supported by the Senate Intelligence Committee in April 2020 issuing a report [intelligence.senate.gov] validating the previous conclusions of the Intelligence community, published on January 6, 2017, that Russia was behind the DNC data breach.[/quote]

Have you been depending on old superseded claims? Is that the basis of your misrepresentation of CrowdStrike’s analysis of DNC email theft??

marke · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues[quote] True. But. Check your dates. Shawn Henry testified in Dec 2017. Mueller Report was released April 18, 2019. CrowdStrike's blog post is dated June 5, 2020.

Shawn Henry's statements in Dec 2017 were a snapshot at the time. With more data and more time, CrowdStrike completed their analysis. That's when they published the following:
Did CrowdStrike have proof that Russia hacked the DNC?

Yes, and this is also supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and independent Congressional reports.

Following a comprehensive investigation that CrowdStrike detailed publicly, the company concluded in May 2016 that two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries breached the DNC network.

To reference, CrowdStrike’s account of their DNC investigation, published on June 14, 2016, “CrowdStrike Services Inc., our Incident Response group, was called by the Democratic National Committee (DNC), the formal governing body for the US Democratic Party, to respond to a suspected breach. We deployed our IR team and technology and immediately identified two sophisticated adversaries on the network – COZY BEAR and FANCY BEAR…. At DNC, COZY BEAR intrusion has been identified going back to summer of 2015, while FANCY BEAR separately breached the network in April 2016.”

This conclusion has most recently been supported by the Senate Intelligence Committee in April 2020 issuing a report [intelligence.senate.gov] validating the previous conclusions of the Intelligence community, published on January 6, 2017, that Russia was behind the DNC data breach.

Have you been depending on old superseded claims? Is that the basis of your misrepresentation of CrowdStrike’s analysis of DNC email theft??
[/quote]

Mueller admitted he did not know how the DNC emails were delivered to Assange. Democrat-inspired claims of Russian involvement that will forever remain unproven do nothing to shed light on how the emails got from the DNC into Assange's hands. How exactly were the emails taken from American DNC computers and delivered to Assange's hands overseas? Nobody in the Mueller camp, in the CrowdStrike camp, or in the democrat camp knows.

TrashCat · M

Change your damn socks!
You people believe any conspiracy except cold, hard facts, like top secret documents being squandered away in Mara Largo. 😂

CorvusBlackthorne · M

And we are meant to simply believe you?

marke · 70-79, M

@CorvusBlackthorne

[quote]And we are meant to simply believe you?[/quote]

No, research the facts and form your own opinions. That is how to exercise good judgment.