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Seth Rich proves Trump innocent and democrats guilty

Seth Rich was murdered shortly after Assange announced he had obtained a trove of DNC emails showing dirty DNC secrets. That theft of DNC emails enraged Hillary and her campaign team. What do we know about Seth Rich? He was a Sanders supporter who was offended by the crooked way Hillary and the DNC stacked the deck against Bernie Sanders. What does Rich prove?

Rich proved the democrats lied about the emails, Trump, and the involvement of the DC police and the FBI in the coverup of the murder. The FBI lied about having Rich's computer. The DC police claimed Rich was murdered on the street in a robbery, but the DC police did not report that someone broke into Rich's apartment and stole his computer. When asked about Rich's computer the FBI lied, claiming it did not have it. The democrats claimed Trump colluded with Russia to steal the emails, but that was proven to have been a deliberate lie. Robert Mueller was hired to get to the bottom of the email theft but he never found out who stole the emails and he never looked into the Seth Rich connection to the case in spite of Assange suggesting it was Rich who exfiltrated the emails.

Rich proves the democrats lied about Rich and his murder and then lied about Trump, and that proves the democrats colluded to lie about what really happened in the exfiltration of the emails.

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ElwoodBlues · M

You've got new evidence??

I didn't think so!!!

After Seth's death, figures friendly to former President Donald Trump portrayed him as a disgruntled Bernie Sanders supporter. They peddled false claims that he had secretly stolen thousands of emails and given them to WikiLeaks to try to stop Hillary Clinton from winning the presidency. They suggested Clinton and the Democrats had arranged his killing. And that the Riches themselves were in on some kind of cover-up. WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange fueled the suspicions, aided by such extremist blogs as Gateway Pundit.

None of this was true. As intelligence agencies in the Obama and Trump administrations, the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee and special counsel Robert Mueller concluded, hackers were deployed by the Russian government to disrupt U.S. elections. But the falsehoods helped deflect growing evidence that the Russians had interfered in Trump's election win.

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After Seth's death, figures friendly to former President Donald Trump portrayed him as a disgruntled Bernie Sanders supporter. They peddled false claims that he had secretly stolen thousands of emails and given them to WikiLeaks to try to stop Hillary Clinton from winning the presidency. They suggested Clinton and the Democrats had arranged his killing. And that the Riches themselves were in on some kind of cover-up. WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange fueled the suspicions, aided by such extremist blogs as Gateway Pundit.

None of this was true. As intelligence agencies in the Obama and Trump administrations, the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee and special counsel Robert Mueller concluded, hackers were deployed by the Russian government to disrupt U.S. elections. But the falsehoods helped deflect growing evidence that the Russians had interfered in Trump's election win.

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Among others offering aid as the Riches recoiled from Burkman was a Fox News commentator and investment adviser named Ed Butowsky. He offered to hire a private detective at his own expense to try to help them solve the case. Without their knowledge, Butowsky pressured the private investigator, who was also a Fox News commentator, to develop evidence that Seth Rich had fed the emails to WikiLeaks as a way of lifting any taint of Russian involvement in Trump's win.

In an interview in August 2017, Butowsky told me that he believed he was helping the Riches by showing their son was a whistleblower against Clinton and the Democrats. Instead, they were outraged.

"This whole blown-up BS has taken the eye off the ball" of the investigation, Mary Rich told me back then. "[That] just buckles me to my knees that they've damaged so much of trying to find who his murderer is."

Driver2 · M

@ElwoodBlues you tired of defending criminals yet ?

ElwoodBlues · M

@Driver2

you tired of defending criminals yet ?

Your level of projection is truly astounding!

But, in the end, you've got no evidence??

Driver2 · M

@ElwoodBlues

ElwoodBlues · M

@Driver2 Your level of projection is truly astounding!

But, in the end, you've got no evidence??

marke · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues
Mueller never found who gave the DNC emails to Assange and neither did CrowdStrike. But Mueller refused to investigate Rich and refused to interview corrupted spies behind the fake Russian collusion conspiracy theory, proving Mueller was not looking to solve the DNC email exfiltration but was on a mission instead to cover up the facts.

ElwoodBlues · M

@marke says

Mueller never found who gave the DNC emails to Assange

Your original claim was

Mueller was not looking to solve the DNC email exfiltration

I'm glad to see you are backing off that original claim that Mueller wasn't looking. Good job moving the goal posts!

In fact, despite your denials, Mueller did find out who stole the emails and who gave them to wikileaks. It's in the Mueller report.

Mueller Report Volume 1, p 41-51; U.S. v. Viktor Netyksho, et al
Summarizing:

Russian hackers from the GRU, the Kremlin’s military-intelligence directorate, conducted multiple rounds of hacking that resulted in the theft of sensitive data and emails from the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta.

They gained access to the servers of the Democratic National Committee as early as the summer of 2015; John Podesta’s emails were compromised in March 2016.

Russian intelligence worked with a cutout, WikiLeaks, to disseminate the stolen information.

Metadata on files found on the computers of Russian hackers suggests that they had completed their transfer of emails stolen from John Podesta’s inbox to WikiLeaks in mid-September 2016.

On September 20, 2016, after Russia transferred files to WikiLeaks, members of the same Russian military-intelligence unit “also successfully gained access to DNC computers hosted on a third-party cloud-computing service. These computers contained test applications related to the DNC’s analytics,” which the hackers copied and stole.

proving Mueller was not looking to solve the DNC email exfiltration but was on a mission instead to cover up the facts.

Proving you haven't fully familiarized yourself what's actually in the Mueller report.

If you prefer, you can read the indictment here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:U.S._v._Viktor_Borisovich_Netyksho,_et_al,_Indictment.pdf

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues LOL, as if mueller knows what was in the bullschiff he supposedly authored

marke · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues

Mueller never found how the DNC emails were exfiltrated from the DNC to Assange and never did CrowdStrike. Anyone claiming otherwise is lying.

marke · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues

There was an identifiable hacker named Guccifer that was caught and went to jail. Two days after Wikileaks posted the embarrassing DNC emails the democrats came up with the alleged hacker "Guccifer 2." The problem with Guccifer 2.0 and the alleged Russian hackers is that nobody anywhere in any government agency ever identified a single individual hacker from these groups, supporting the claims of some that all of these alleged hackers were just made up to cover up the democrat murder of Seth Rich.

marke · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues

Democrats have been covering up facts about Rich's death because they murdered Rich for giving Assange secret emails. Democrats invented the lying Trump/Russian collusion conspiracy theory to cover up the Seth Rich murder.

ElwoodBlues · M

@marke You've chided me for lack of evidence despite what your chosen authoritative CrowdStrike reported about having proof of Russian hackers based on metadata. Or are you abandoning CrowdStrike now that you've discovered they don't actually say what you thought they said??

Democrats have been covering up facts about Rich's death because they murdered Rich for giving Assange secret emails.

So where's your evidence? Seriously, do you have a SHRED of evidence to support that claim?? Or is it just another evidence-free conspiracy theory???

marke · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues

Trump's testimony is an opinion. The congressional record of Shawn Henry's sworn testimony is a recorded fact.

marke · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues

You've chided me for lack of evidence despite what your chosen authoritative CrowdStrike reported about having proof of Russian hackers based on metadata. Or are you abandoning CrowdStrike now that you've discovered they don't actually say what you thought they said??

Democrats have been covering up facts about Rich's death because they murdered Rich for giving Assange secret emails.
So where's your evidence? Seriously, do you have a SHRED of evidence to support that claim?? Or is it just another evidence-free conspiracy theory???

Making allegations is a far distance away from proving those allegations. Guccifer 1.0 was caught, tried, and jailed.

Nobody has been caught, tried, and jailed for delivering DNC emails to Assange, proving those making allegations against Russians are unable to prove those allegations in court.

ElwoodBlues · M

@marke Have patience. Assange is headed this way via British extradition. He sure went out of his way to avoid answering questions in the US.

BTW, IP addresses reveal "Guccifer 2.0" was a GRU officer who chose a name in an attempt to misdirect.

An anonymous source close to the U.S. government investigation of the hacker told the Daily Beast that on one single occasion, Guccifer 2.0 failed to log into the usual VPN that disguised their traffic. As a result, they left one honest IP trace at an unnamed social media site.

That IP address, “identified Guccifer 2.0 as a particular GRU officer working out of the agency’s headquarters on Grizodubovoy Street in Moscow,” the Daily Beast reported. (The GRU is one of the Russia’s security and intelligence organs.)

https://techcrunch.com/2018/03/22/more-evidence-ties-guccifer-2-0-to-russian-intelligence/

"Guccifer 2.0" is one of the 13 Russians indicted by Mueller. Again you are depending on obsolete superseded reports.