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Tidal Energy - Clean, constant and predictable..


The world's most powerful tidal turbine just got a major funding boost.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/05/the-worlds-most-powerful-tidal-turbine-just-got-a-major-funding-boost.html

The United States has a huge amount of untapped Tidal Energy potential. Especially in the northeast, northwest and in Alaska. Scotland is the current world leader in this technology. The US should catch up and take the lead...
Driver2 · M
And does it affect the ocean ecosystem?
GrinNude · 61-69, C
@Driver2 You think the world's top scientists have given into political pressure? From who?
Driver2 · M
@GrinNude any scientist who questions or does not agree with climate change is discredited and canceled
It’s a fact
GrinNude · 61-69, C
@Driver2 There is an increasingly dire spate of floods, droughts and wildfires simultaneously happening worldwide. That's a fact. The vast majority of the worlds scientists are calling these events a direct result of climate change because it's a fact. Not because they are under duress. I thought you wanted to have a reasonable conversation about this. Obviously, I was wrong.
Graylight · 51-55, F
I love it. How do I get on whatever that vessel is?

To the detractors who like to say things like, "It can't provide all the energy we need, so it won't work," this is an excellent component of a healthier net of harvested energy. Wind, tidal, solar and even newer technologies.

There are still people who scream and shout about not having the freedom to pollute their lungs and other people with smoke and carcinogens. There will always be people kneeling at the altar of the burning, black smoke dying fossil fuels.
That's great!
You can also get a turbines for wind that's portable, for your house. It'll run a small space heater, 200W.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Tidal power generation is not THE solution. But it will be part of a decentralised loacal supply solution.. The new storage battery solutions can be attcahed to all not fossil generation to make it all work.😷
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@GrinNude For America, I agree. But America is only one country. And the worlds legacy from the Trump years is that the rest of the world can go its own way and leave America behind if it doesnt want to keep up. Start doing the numbers of how much Americans blue chip companies are generating their profits elsewhere now. 3M, Du Pont, Monsanto. A lot can shut down their US operations and get along quite well..😷
Northwest · M
@whowasthatmaskedman US companies have always focused on exploiting foreign markers. But now, foreign powers have been investing in US industry/tech.

Monsanto got bought out by Bayer.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Northwest Thats a controlling interest of course. But what used to be US global powerhouses are diluted to "global" corporations. They dont have to call America home. A lot of the "coalface" jobs arent in America any more..America used to be described as having "Industrial might" and in some places thats still true. But if the trend continies it will be left with "Administrative might."😷
southbeachguy · 46-50, M
Tidal energy has been the pipe dream of climate folks for a long time. I am not saying it has no useful potential, but the "promise" of tidal energy has been a fools errand so far.
GrinNude · 61-69, C
@southbeachguy Like wind, Tidal energy was used before the industrial revolution along the northeast coast. Tidal Energy it's about 20 - 30 years behind wind energy. It's like the chicken and egg. We don't know how low the cost would be if it was developed at scale. Time will tell. It is much more predictable than wind. Windmills can't lower the amount of Base load needed to cover the variability. Tidal Energy is predictable centuries in advance so it can reduce the base load that's needed.
Driver2 · M
@southbeachguy key word is fool
Like fool and his money
Except it’s fool and our money
Catzgano · 31-35, F
Good luck dude lol
GrinNude · 61-69, C
@Catzgano They had more wind at one point but I'm sure we have overtaken them by now.
Catzgano · 31-35, F
@GrinNude fossil fuels are priority here
GrinNude · 61-69, C
@Catzgano I see that they are for many. And there are many who have legitimate concerns about the environment. Especially with so many droughts, floods, wildfires, tornadoes and heat domes
Driver2 · M
Wind affects bird migration and kills millions of birds
Solar is unreliable
What’s the deal here ?
GrinNude · 61-69, C
@Driver2 Tidal power is very predictable and reliable. The amount of energy from the tide can be predicted centuries in advance. Also water turbines turn much slower than wind turbine so they shouldn't do damage to fish migration. There is a pilot project taking place now in Alaska and in the Cape cod canal in Massachusetts to study the environmental effects of tidal turbines. The damage to birds from windmills if mine are compared to from other sources.

Estimates of up to a million or more birds a year are killed by wind turbines in the US but that is far exceeded by collisions with communications towers (6.5 million); power lines, (25 million); windows (up to 1 billion); and cats (1.3 to 4.0 billion) and those lost due to habitat loss, pollution and climate.
GrinNude · 61-69, C
Tidal Energy pilot project in Alaska.

https://www.ktoo.org/2021/04/12/nikiski-eyed-for-cook-inlet-tidal-energy-project/
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
Hell yeah, we should. Why have we not?

 
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