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How is this pitch going to work with people who don't mind lying and and believe it's ok if it benefits them?

I agree, but none of this is new, and let's face it, how many Trump voters really thought he was telling the truth about crowd size, his voice on the pussy grabbing tape, his motives for extorting Zelinsky, or even the stolen election?

They like lies, when they think they can benefit from them, and they, like Trump, don't usually even deny them and instead resort to whatabouts and moral relativism.

I agree that we need to keep calling this stuff out, but we also need to keep in mind that Trump supporters and even the undecided voters have mostly already prioritized things like honesty and other human beings.

It seems like we need a new message, imo, besides us vs them.




On one level, this is about the GOP’s war on democracy and its refusal to accept defeat and support the peaceful transfer of power. But more fundamentally, it is about these Republicans’ willingness to lie — or be taken in by lies — if it suits their career ambitions. Democrats should mince no words: Such people should not hold public office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/14/no-republican-candidate-should-be-able-escape-jan-6-hearings/
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
There is no shortage of MSM articles calling out the alleged lies of Trump and his supporters.

There is a woeful dearth of articles calling out Democrats' lies, and it's not because their lies aren't plentiful.
@Thinkerbell Oh no! Corvus blocked me! 🥳 I thought he liked being called a dum-dum.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@stratosranger

Did he block you on all three of his VIP accounts? 😂 😂 😂
@Thinkerbell I am not sure what the other two are. But no worries. I’m sure he’ll get around to it
Budwick · 70-79, M
The GOP is unwilling to accept cheating on elections.
THAT is the issue.

I think the GOP message is pretty good,
especially since the Democrat message has been 'suffer and like it.'

I think that Americans are actually not so enamored by the Jan 6th rally any more.
People that broke into the capital building were arrested - it would be nice to actually try these folks. Some are 'more guilty' than others.

It's the dems that can't escape the repeated failures of the democrat administration and the negative impact on America.

BTW, it was Hunter and Joe extorting Zelinsky, not Trump.
I get it, easy mistake, it could happen to anyone.
Just like jamming a fork full of apple pie into your eye, instead of your mouth.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@Budwick

Re Jan 6: It's amazing how efficient Garland and the FBI are in making arrests when their political interests are concerned.

Not so efficient in bringing people to trial, however.
Whatever happened to the Constitutional right to a speedy trial...? 🤔

Oh, wait... maybe closer to election time. 🤔
Budwick · 70-79, M
@MistyCee
"I need to do you a favor, though" on that "perfect call.

Oh, the call that was transcribed word for word and proved nothing was a foot?

and NOT the millions Joe extorted from Ukraine and bragged about?

I'm sorry, I should have known you would not be chasing the truth.
TexChik · F
@Budwick Biden admitted to doing it on camera . I saw the video .
TexChik · F
Perhaps libs call inconvenient truth lies as part of their cover up. Not to beat a dead horse, but how can anyone trust or believe the party that impeached a president without any factual evidence because they wanted power. The Russian collusion scam ruined lives, violated rights , weakened our government ,and perpetuated a lie for years .

And as always , you have no proof . Just lib claims that have been repeatedly shown to be made up exaggerations ( aka lies) .
@TexChik Sorry. I thought you might have been saying something more related to the OP.

I'm still not quite getting it, though. You think, if the two tiered justice system was more equal and folks like Pelosi's husband got harsher treatment, or Pelosi gets nailed for conflicts of interest,"libs will settle down"?
TexChik · F
@MistyCee like any criminal, if they know that getting caught also means a perp walk and jail time, they are not as likely to break the law. Now libs offend and don’t get charged. San Francisco just got tired of that and recalled their very liberal DA
@TexChik ok. I think I got it now.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
I see this as the ultimate end of a society that values winning above all. It doesnt matter what you have to do as long as you are number one. That justifies anything.. When you run out of sheep, what do you eat?😷
cycleman · 61-69, M
It's like a rebel flu.
how bout we all on both sides work for the good of the country. trump needs to pay for this. however i dont see it happen. past presidents get pardon and are free to go.. on both sides.
he will not be able to run for office that i am sure of. and i believe he will stay free to be what he is.
@markansas I'd love to see us moving forward "for the good of the country," but Trump and his "trust me, I'm what's good for the country" is still out there, and I honestly don't believe he wont be able to run for office at this point.

Millions of Americans like the way he lies and promises that his lies will benefit them and screw the other, and many more are pissed off in general at the economy and would rather "protest vote" against anyone who doesn't sling lies and immorality like Trump does.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
I don't know, but what are they supposed to do?

 
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