Why exactly do the liberals who are ignorant of WWII history think the Nazis believed "white people" were his idea of a superior race?

@CorvusBlackthorne 🤷‍♂️

@Kwek00 OK.... so it seems that Hitler viewed Jews as people who maliciously tried to "corrupt the white race" but... that doesn't really address anything I've said.

Even in the same book you're quoting from, Hitler stated he did recognize the Jews as being German at first until he decided to stare at one for a long period of time and ponder "if this creature is really human." Yet... Jews became the primary target for the genocide. Even moreso than the "non-white races."

I mean, a big part of the reason why the Nazis made Jews wear the star of David was because, at face value, a lot of Jews did seem indistinguishable from other whites and they needed a way to distinguish among them. Further concluding that the Nazis racism was based on something more than just simply skin color.

@MickRogers Well, maybe this is a bit more clear to you know:


Since he did seem really fascinated by the white race. And by extend, the Germanic race who he believed had remnants of Aryan blood inside of it.


The first targets of the NAZIs were internal and external. Internal, because fascism believes in the idea of order and purity. Even in the political sense, there should be no politics inside the body politic (the German nation). Therefore, all dissident voices that didn't agree with the new imposed NAZI norm, had to go. We are talking about left-wingers, liberals of all kinds, transvestites, gays, adicts, handicaped people, etc.. Then you have the groups that are perceived external to the Germanic Nation, which are all perceived as a thread. This conception is defined by the NAZIs themselves, and the NAZI doctrine defines "Germanic" through bloodline that can be traced back to the German soil. If you can't trace your ancestry back, you are not Germanic in the eyes of a NAZI. Prime target? The Jew, who was quite literally the scapegoat for everything that could be perceived as an ill of Germanic society. The Jew was blamed for: Socialism, Marxism, Communism, Social-Democracy, Liberalism, the enlightenment, WW1, Versailles, the perceived decline of culture, the perceived decline of purity, ... etc. NAZIs ,just like all antisemites, had an entire conspiracy theory about Jews, a group of people that were all out to get them. Jews in NAZI ideology, were never Germanic, they are just an impurity that also needs to suffer their wrath for getting the blame of everything they don't like. And if the NAZIs didn't remove the Jews first, the Jews would eventually remove them. It's a them or us kind of framework. What these people looked like, was just as important to the NAZIs, as 2022 conceptions of whiteness. NAZI racial theory is linked to bloodlines and soil. It's not not primairily based on looks.


They also talk about groups of people that are clearly distinguishable by outlook. But even if someone looks Germanic, has largely Germanic ancestry, ... those couple of percentages that can be labeled Slavic, African, Jewish, ... etc. Will grant that person the concept of being "impure" (Non-Germanic, Non-White). Because NAZI racial theory is linked ot bloodlines and soil and not primairy on looks, that doesn't stop them from labeling themselves "white". And perceiving that what is labeled impure as a thread to the white race.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Well, America did put Jews in American and Canadian concentration camps during WWII and even sent some to Nazi Germany during the shooting.

@Diotrephes Internment camps were more a thing with the Japanese. Sadly our governments both refused boat loads of Jews attempting to flee. Definitely a national disgrace.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow The US forced the South American countries to expel the Jews so that they could be placed in US and Canadian concentration camps. The US routinely sent Jews to Nazi Germany and some Japanese to Japan.

And interesting fact is that none of the Japanese in Hawaii were placed in the concentration camps.

@SW-User Yes, it is a very complex issue. If you are so inclined you can read Theodor Herzl's The Jewish State for free https://www.gutenberg.org/files/25282/25282-h/25282-h.htm

If you want to do detailed research, you can subscribe to the New York Times archives for a small nominal fee, and you will have access to the stories about all kinds of issues as they were written about in the past.

And, if you can stomach it, you can read the Jewish Babylonian Talmud = http://www.come-and-hear.com/talmud/index.html

@Diotrephes You are very confused both spouting nazi bullshit and criticizing them in the same breath. Yikes.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Politics are very complex. All of the main characters had very similar national beliefs at that time.

@MickRogers Was there a part of "I'm over it" that you didn't understand? I have ZERO interest in being 'educated' by someone like you. Especially from a brainwashed kid. None. So stop. Thanks.

@Ynotisay If you weren't interested you would have never responded in the first place. Proving, yet again, you're a dishonest attention whore. You're acting like nothing more than a child throwing a tantrum just because you're upset at the fact that you're more conservative than I am.

And out of the two of us, the only one who is a brainwashed non-intellectual is yourself. You've recognized that the system you make excuses for rips families apart from people, oppressing the ones they love, you just don't care. Meaning I'm not gaining anything of intellectual value by talking to a pathetic waste of life such as yourself.

For someone who likes accusing others of "just being white dudes" you don't seem that bright enough to recognize your own level of privilege. We on the progressive side call that projection 🙄

@MickRogers I didn't read anything you wrote. It just sucks that now I have to block you, because you'll bring nothing to table other than bullshit, and I don't have a whole lot of blocks remaining. I tend to remove nonsense and I wanted to pick and choose. That's why I said 'stop' and 'thanks.' Thought you'd get that. Should have known. That's out of your reach.

@SW-User He quite literally hated Jews and Slavs more than he hated black germans. A commenter here even pointed out that one of his personal allies was Mufti al-Husseini who wasn't white but had a common enemy; the Jews. Who were white:

@SW-User THE GERMANS AND THE SLAVS WERE FIGHTING OVER A 1000 YEARS
it was not about skin color there it was old hate.

@SW-User There were Black troops in the German Army. The American Army wouldn't let Black American troops fight White German troops because they didn't like the idea of Black people getting used to killing White people in an organized manner.

@MickRogers most Jewish people from Europe by DNA studies have Middle Eastern ancestry. Further European i.e Ashkenazi Jews aren't the only Jews. You get Sephardi and Mizrachi Jews, the latter never left the Middle East after the destruction of the Second Temple and you can literally not tell them apart from Palestinians or Lebanese.

@basilfawlty89 And yet.... all you needed in Nazi Germany was Jewish ancestry in order to be one. You were treated the same whether or not your skin color was darker than another. That's the point.

@Harriet03 There was no one named "Jesus" before about 1630 A.D. So, the character could have been anyone but, according to the fairy tale, he was a Jew.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow That position isn't factual though, and not a single historian on the planet actually agrees with you.

Whether or not Jews and Slavs were "considered white" at the time has no relevance to the point. Hitler's fascination wasn't towards white people, it was towards Germanic people. The point being, Jews and Slavs are white-appearing. They have white skin. Meaning Hitler's fascination wasn't towards "white people" but a specific type of white people.

Not even a single place in Mein Kampf did Hitler even claim he advocated for preserving "white people" but of thr Aryan race. Meaning your claim is, by definition, ahistorical.

@MickRogers Ummm citation needed.


Sorry but this has been the standard position of historians and political science experts for almost a hundred years.


This revisionist BS is mostly just BS you find on the Daily Stormer.



Sorry but that is not factual, but it is moving the goalposts 80 years after the fact.





Now that point is totally irrelevant. The nazis considered both to be inferior sub races.


You are trying desperately to strip away historical context and reinvent definitions after the point which raises some pretty ugly questions.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow The Irish didn't become White until they moved to America.

@Shaveit Isn't that more descriptive of Swedes than Germans?

@Diotrephes yes but that was hitters perfect race

@Shaveit Hitler wasn't the sharpest knife in the kitchen. He didn't even know what any Aryan is. He thought he could conquer the world with a small army and no navy. He couldn't invade England. He didn't have a collection of advanced weapon systems. He couldn't defend Germany from counter attack. He couldn't attack America. He didn't have sufficient allies.

He lost the war when he fired the first shot, just like Japan did. Italy was never a major player.

If he had focused on killing Black and Brown people there wouldn't have been any problems.

@MethDozer That doesn't change the plain fact that Hitler's mission was to preserve the Germanic race not the white race. Not a single place in his autobiography does he even mention a mission to "preserve the white race" because the only "white people" he actually wanted to preserve were the Germanics.

By the way, Jews and Slavs weren't "considered non-white in Europe" because the concept of "whiteness" is only a term thats exclusive to North America. So Jews and Slavs might have been considered non-white in the US, but the same standard doesn't apply in Europe since racism in Europe is largely dependent on what region you were born in. Not your skin color.

@MickRogers

Historically incorrect. It was a concept developed by English and Continetal Royal houses and Aristocracy and was pushed harder as imperialism came into vogue.