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Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
I'm sure you did get the consistency- Less social harm is good. More suffering is bad. Isn't that a good enough rule? Why pretend it's gotta be something else?
@Stopmakingsense Because if he sticks to the simple truth, it makes him look bad.

Carla · 61-69, F
Your thinking is flawed.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Carla [quote]we finally see eye to eye bud[/quote]

No, we don't.
Spend some time mulling over this weekend.
We'll see if you've come around or not.
Carla · 61-69, F
@Budwick I've mulled enough over this subject. Besides, I have better plans for the weekend.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@Carla he unblocked me recently

And blocked me again less than a day later

I don’t miss him at all.

Lol
Elessar · 26-30, M
It might be shocking to you, but in the case of an abortion the only person who is affected is the mother; in the case of (non) vaccination, the lemmings who end up saturating the hospital are putting *everyone* in peril (even just simply by taking away healthcare; good luck if you break a bone having it fixed and not losing a limb when no hospital can admit you).
@Elessar It's unfortunate, but I don't think our friend is intelligent enough to understand the difference.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@LordShadowfire Wanna be they ignore the difference between "liberal" and "leftwing" too?
@Elessar That's just standard operating procedure for the right.
MiserableAtBest · 18-21, F

I applaud you for nailing logical fallacies
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
Liberals only support whatever benefits them to whoever’s demise. They will exploit whatever sensitive issue they need to to get them whatever leverage they need

They are incredibly selfish valueless moral less human beings
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@wildbill83 And declared it is harmful and nothing is know about its long term effects despite Phase III clinical trials. Of course, I guess we could wait another 50 years to see if there are more longterm effects we haven't run up against yet. How many will die in those 50 years?
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
@DeluxedEdition exactly, it isn't about safety, it's about compliance...

"use that, take this vaccine, get in that boxcar... "
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@DeluxedEdition I thought the goal was to limit the spread of the disease, not each for himself. If you aren't making any effort to minimize being a carrier, who is being selfish? And will you guarantee that we don't have to pay your hospital bills when you wind up crowding the ICUs for the rest of us, or are you going to use the public hospital so others can pay for you?
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
Also, to all the knuckleheads going on about how we all need to get vaccinated to protect others...

NEWS FLASH! Getting vaccinated for Covid 19 does NOT prevent you from getting Covid 19, nor from spreading it to others. I cannot believe that people still promote that lie. Enough already.

At best it prevents you from getting a serious case of Covid, and even that is in question these days....
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@dancingtongue That's not an answer to the questions I asked. And sorry, no, that's not true any longer. Fully vaxxed are almost at the same levels as unvaccinated as far as getting infected.

I've already acknowledged the vaccine has been effective at preventing serious illness and hospitalization.
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
[quote]And the rates of cases and hospitalizations are mostly be driven by unvaccinated people.[/quote]

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@SumKindaMunster If the vax doesn't do you harm it will do you no good. Kind of sad that people have been sold the lie.
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
Meh. I'm left-leaning but I'm against abortion generally, and I'm pro-vaccine. I'm fine with people not being vaccinated as long as they stay the Hell away from me and anyone I care about.
False equivalency. Getting vaccinated helps save the lives of adults, not an undifferentiated bundle of cells. It's ironic that in your pathetic attempt to show us up as hypocrites, you show your own true colors.
@LordShadowfire I'd argue that you are making false equivalencies.. You say that an unborn child is a bundle of random cells to demean its potential for life. I can demean your life by using cold clinical terms too you are a living organism formed of bones, blood, skin and flesh.

I could go as far to demean your life more than that unborn child because the unborn child hasn't polluted this planet, sucked up resources and contributed to a civilization that has ultimately fucked this world and it's habitat for animals that actually have an equilibrium.
@TheWhippersnapper You are literally referring to an embryo, which doesn't even yet have a brain, as a child. And you're also intentionally distracting from the main issue, which is the fact that you've chosen to take the side of the virus in this battle. You don't actually love humanity at all. The fact that you are trying to hide behind feigned offense at my alleged hypocrisy tells me that you are, in fact, a virus.
https://similarworlds.com/politics/4118831-If-youre-not-in-favor-of-vaccinating-the-whole
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
And how are these in conflict? Where do you see irony?
@dancingtongue It's a fallacy called false equivalency.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
It's not a contradiction, nor a false equivalency if you believe in the sanctity of one's own body, and having control over what you choose to do to it.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@SumKindaMunster Are you saying then that anti-vaxxers tend to be pro-choice?
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@dancingtongue No, merely providing context for people who seem confused by the apparent contradiction here.
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
at first, it was just sad how ignorant how all the pro maskers, vaxers, fauci groupies were... now it's just hilarious...

surprised you fucking dimwits aren't afraid of your own shadow... 🤣
A very flawed strawman.

For one getting an abortion to my knowledge has never been contagious or resulted in the deaths of other people around you. Just saying.
MedfordJay · 22-25, M
I don't get it.
1490wayb · 56-60, M
@MedfordJay i see this way...ALL human life from conception to death is precious and valuable. not just serial killer on death row many want to show mercy to. especially the MOST innocent life that hasnt even had the chance to offend or hurt you yet
TexChik · F
@MedfordJay so far abortion has killed 67 million babies in the US, seems its a little more than an individual issue
MedfordJay · 22-25, M
@TexChik Her body, her choice. I even worked at Planned parenthood with my mom one year, who was an assistant director for many years. Nothing but 99% integrity all around.
Andddd theres nothing wrong with that so
@TheWhippersnapper theres really no irony but diff of opinion is america so whatevs
@TryingtoLava the irony is that by not getting the vaccine you are very unlikely to endanger anyone's life because virus kills less than 2% of its hosts where as with an abortion you almost certainly are endangering a life or potential for it.
@TheWhippersnapper ah yes the only __% so it doesnt matter thinking so that 1/10 adults who die of something isnt still a dead person to you? How does that connect to lets say a woman whos been raped and needs an abortion?
1490wayb · 56-60, M
Graylight · 51-55, F
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@Graylight saved this for later :) thanks!
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
Interesting. Last year liberals said masks protects others. Vaccines only protect you. No surprise liberals changed their narrative.
Northwest · M
Your values: turn science into politics, historically that strategy cured many diseases.
Definition of a “
Conservative”...a liberal who has been mugged!
@soar2newhighs Creative, but still wrong.
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I’ve got a pizza coming, get back to you real soon.

To which I say the media is the virus and you are infected.
@TheWhippersnapper https://similarworlds.com/politics/4118831-If-youre-not-in-favor-of-vaccinating-the-whole
uncalled4 · 56-60, M
I'm pro-choice. I guess I'm pro-choice for the vaccine, too, although I personally am vaccinated.
uncalled4 · 56-60, M
@LordShadowfire There is for me. We can agree to disagree.
@uncalled4 Not really. Unless you're intending to continue wearing a mask and avoiding contact with other humans, not getting vaccinated means you've volunteered your body to be an incubator for the next mutation of the virus.

You're either on the side of humanity, or you're on the side of the virus.
uncalled4 · 56-60, M
@LordShadowfire Let's be realistic, not everybody is going to get it. You and I and many others have, but one way or another, it's not going to be 100%. The best we can do is to protect ourselves.
ViciDraco · 36-40, M
The vaccine is about protecting the lives of other humans. Fetuses are not yet human. Also, pregnancy carries more bodily risk than vaccination does.
Then as someone who never bought into "my body my choice": get the damn vaccine!!!!!
https://similarworlds.com/politics/4118831-If-youre-not-in-favor-of-vaccinating-the-whole
empanadas · 31-35, M
I'm pro choice for both. One of the main reasons why I'm a centrist
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