MAGA and Fascism

You are an indoctrinated fool. Go pledge your allegiance to Xi.

I guess the obsession of labeling far-right ideological stances "fascist" keeps persisting in certain left-wing circles. If they would only do the leggwork to read actual fascists from the 20s, 30s and 40s instead of reading easy digestable books like "How Fascism Works" by Jason Stanly, "Ur-Fascism" by Umberto Ecco and muddy the waters with Wittgensteins' argument about language games, they might actually find out that things just aren't that simple. Start by reading: The doctrine of Fascism [i](Gentile & Mussolini)[/i], The Philosophic Basis of Fascism [i](Gentile)[/i], Fascism for the Millions [i](Mosly)[/i], The Alternative [i](Mosly)[/i], ... . Or scholars like Robert Paxton [i](The Anatomy of Fascism)[/i], James Gregor [i](The ideology of fascism the rationale of totalitarianism ; Giovanni Gentille: Philosopher of Fascism ; Italian Fascism and Developmental Dictatorship ; Mussolini's Intellectuals)[/i], Roger Griffin [i](Fascism ; Fascism: A Quick Immersion)[/i], Michael Mann [i](Fascists)[/i], ... . And even people that study contemporary right wing populism like Cas Mudde [i](Populist Radical Right Parties in Europe ; The Ideology of the Extreme right ; The Far Right in America ; Populism: A Very Short Introduction)[/i] and Jan-Werner Müller [i](What is Poppulism)[/i]. And you'll find out, that labeling Donald Trump and his movement as a fascist one is pretty hard to do.

That there are certain aspects of the movement that is also found in fascism is undeniable. However, if (as the person in the video says) you accept that Fascism is an ideology. Then you should also accept what an ideology actually is, and what it is is a coherent system of ideas that all work together to make a sort of worldview or ideological position. You can start cutting these systems of ideas up, and atomise them into all the diffrent ideas that make up the entire world view and label these ideas as being "fascistic" because they are a part of fascism. But once you start doing that, a lot of things (as the video concludes) are suddenly "fascist". Because doing such a thing with an ideological position is stupid, because the ideology itself is the complete structure of all those ideas. If you start cutting things up and start using these atoms as your reference guide, then I'm pretty sure Stalinism will be a really tough cookie to get out of the fascist bracket. While Stalinism isn't fascist, it does share a lot of ideas that also persist in fascism. You also find fascist elements in people that support monarchies, theocracies, ... and other traditionalist frameworks that try to gain political hegemony. Because all these types of ideologies, belong into this far right bracket, but they aren't the same.

I also wonder why this patriarchical view as a key tendency of fascism keeps persisting. It's probably because the only variants of fascism that we have for examples came to be in regions where males were higher up in the hierarchy in the past. However, this patriarchical part that lingers in our examples of fascism aren't because they are essential for fascism. Fascism builds it's ideas with the nation as the unit from which it reasons. And the nation has this rich mythic past that is constructed by the nationalists (the video is right), which is not something that you only find in Fascism. It's a part of European culture ever since nation building became a thing at the end of the 18th century. Because of the past where the male had the most dominant status, this trickles through in fascist myths that are constructed in those regions. However, if fascism becomes adopted in a country that had a matriarchy, the romantic ideal wouldn't be dominated by manlyhood. It would be dominated by strong women. Because of the history that the nation has. This strong man idea, isn't part of fascism, it's an outcome of the shared past of the nation that gets mystified and romanticised and idealised by nationalists.

Yeah tell me how outraged you are about the fascist from the left or are you just a wasteful byproduct of the propaganda you jerk off to. Trust me I wish with all my heart trump was a fascist but unfortunately he isn’t a modern day democrat

@boudinMan

[quote]dims don't have the mental capacity to understand that a fascist or dictator would never permit criticism of the leader. if trump was a dictator, he wasn't a very good one.[/quote]

Surely, even you, realize that your statement is total BS. Trump did not allow dissent and fired every single person who ever disagreed with him.

His Attorney General, #1 and #2
His Sec of State: #1 and #2
His Sec of Defense: #1, #2 and #3
His FBI Director: All of them
Senate majority leader
House majority leader

Every single person who ever disagreed with him. But, I guess you do believe in your own bullshit.

Denialism rules.
So, what can replace democracy now that denial made the people unfit to rule?

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