How can Israel be Apartheid if there are Arab Muslims who are Israeli citizens?

@SW-User I'd say.....high to certain. If anyone wants to know the truth it's there. If they don't, they won't.

@Fukfacewillie It feels like people like this are impervious to facts. Like you show them contradictory evidence of their beliefs and they act like they never saw it. It's so fucking weird. Like, don't people want to believe things that are true?

@SW-User Yeah, there are many studies about how people don't actually change their minds when confronted with facts. The vaccine is another example. There's studies about non-confrontation/Socratic methods. Here, it's just bashing over the head.

@Burnley123 Is taking one line literally-out-of-context in order to respond?

@MickRogers I'm literally responding to what you said. Maybe read up on this.

@hippyjoe1955 The British, French, Spanish, and the US were shoving natives off their land long before Canada ever did.

The trail of tears existed before Canada's reservation idea, anyway.

@hippyjoe1955
You say this as if people are happy about how native people from North America have been treated. wtf

@Heartlander Why are you using Middle Eastern Countries as a standard for ethics? Do you think they really have government figured out?

@Burnley123 Well, things like forced evictions, arbitrary detention, and civilian casualties that hasn't drastically effected the arab population (which is in the millions) over a span of the last few decades doesn't really constitute as a genocide.

An example of a genocide would be the Rwandan genocide where about 491,000 to 800,000 Tutsi civilians were literally hunted down and murdered by Hutu militia, their neighbors, and police almost wiping them out. This lasted in a span of 100 days. This Israeli-Palestine conflict has lasted for what, 70 years now? While any civilian death is a horrible tragedy, the amount of casualties in Gaza or Palestine does not affect overall population size or even begin to threaten its existence, unlike in the example of Rwanda.

I think we should keep using "genocide" for the Rwanda-like things, not for every war being fought today. It's important to distinguish one horrible thing from another far more horrible thing. If we call everything by the worst name, we lose that capability.

@SW-User It's not though.

Apartheid would be if only ethnic Jews had rights. There are Arabs in their military, so I'm not buying this "Ethnic Arabs are treated like second class citizens."

Maybe Arab Palestinians but not Arab Israelis.

@MickRogers https://www.vox.com/world/2018/7/31/17623978/israel-jewish-nation-state-law-bill-explained-apartheid-netanyahu-democracy

Maybe take a look at this.

@MistyCee modern nations have neither state religions nor official churches.

@Stopmakingsense There seem to be a lot of non modern nations still around.

@Stopmakingsense Jewish state =/= Judaic state.

Scandinavia isn't a country that's exclusively for ethnic Scandinavians.