@DeluxedEdition Then why do you bother to participate in civics? Is the purpose of it not to protect the welfare of your own citizens? If you don't care about the welfare of your own citizens or anyone other than yourself, then why do you pay any attention to an institution which solely exists for it?
@Driver2 There aren't many positive results to speak of, although there aren't many results whatsoever to speak of because Marxism has usually been the less popular choice between it and communism. The one significant point of Marxism producing good results would be the period of time just before the Vietnam War when Ho Chi Minh provided a stable and prosperous society in Northern Vietnam, at least until the French got involved.
@BlueMetalChick It's ironic that Marxist politicians played a role, historically, mainly in societies with zero capitalistic development, like Tsarist Russia, China, Vietnam.
Is this a question? Marxism and contemporary critical race theory (which is largely an academic matter) are not synonymous. Figure out what you want to post and do so in a coherent manner. This is meaningless.
The irony here being that one of the pillars of Karl Marx's entire school of thought is that race identity is completely invalid, and that it's merely a distraction from the real disparity, that being classism.
If you disagree, that's fine, but understand that Karl Marx was one of the biggest opponents of race theory that's ever been.
CRT is one of the pre-requisites of "divide and conquer". In this country, CRT is being promoted by radical far left agitators, most notably black far left radical agitators with Marxist goals.
It was employed in Russia, in the time of Stalin, by the Communist youth group Komsomol.
This is a quote from the book, Whisperers: Private Life in Stalin's Russia, by Orlando Figes.
"The villagers had never heard such propaganda in the past, and many were impressed by the long words used by the leaders of the Komsomol. At these meetings, the villagers were told that they belonged to three mutually hostile classes: the poor peasants, who were the allies of the proletariat, the middle peasants, who were neutral, and the rich or ‘kulak’ peasants, who were its enemies. The names of all the peasants in these different classes were listed on a board outside the village school."
"The organizer must first rub raw the resentments of the people of the community; fan the latent hostilities of many of the people to the point of overt expression . . . an organizer must stir up dissatisfaction and discontent; provide a channel into which people can angrily pour their frustrations . . . your function — to agitate to the point of conflict."
"Conjuring up such hostilities is also the essence of what Karl Marx was aiming for in his call for “class consciousness.” The problem, as he saw it, was that people were busy with life and willing to live and let live. Or, to put it in modern terminology, they were “insufficiently woke.” All power elites likewise see social contentment as an impediment to their power."
@CountScrofula I've heard that a lot. I know the origins of it were fundamentally antisemitic and I think it came from the old German term for cultural bolshevism? coined by nazis.
@Ryannnnnn Yeah that's exactly it. It sort of mashes together Protocols of the Elders of Zion conspiracy with Marxism and then with modernity/progressivism all into one abstract threat against traditional institutions.
@Nudistsue26 How does one "train" under Karl Marx's theory? If she did, she was the worst student ever because Marx's whole point was that race identity is meaningless. And she's founded a race identity group. Marx would hate her guts.
@BlueMetalChick i am stubborn. i am not easily influenced and convinced once i have made up my mind. i have had more people tell me i'm stubborn than call me by actual name. and i promise you i'm more stubborn than you! you always want to argue and act like your viewpoint is better for this or that reason.
when in reality there is no such thing as right and wrong. and you sitting here explaining to me why i should believe what you believe isn't going to work. you aren't going to convince me otherwise no matter what you say or how long you say it.
i don't want to have this conversation because i really dgaf. i contributed what i wanted to contribute and don't have to explain myself to anybody. and not to mention i'm on my own individual thread now. so that i could go back and forth with OP and here you guys are...... 🤷♀️
okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay that's my words
i am stubborn. i am not easily influenced and convinced once i have made up my mind.
So, even if you are presented with very clear evidence that your previous assertion was wrong, you still don't change your mind? I think there's a word for that. It's called stupidity.
you always want to argue and act like your viewpoint is better for this or that reason.
This isn't MY viewpoint. This has nothing to do with my opinion, or with yours. If you hate Marxism, that's fine. If you hate race theory, that's also fine. I'm not going to offer you my opinion on whether those things are good or bad. What I AM telling you is that Marxism and race theory are mutually opposed to each other and cannot coexist. That's not MY opinion, that's not MY viewpoint. That's verifiable fact. That's an unchangeable piece of political science. The entire point of Marxism is that no identity matters but class identity. The entire point of race theory is that no identity matters but racial identity. See how those two things are contradictory?
you aren't going to convince me otherwise no matter what you say or how long you say it.
Well that's quite a shitty way to live. Do you still believe that chocolate milk comes from brown cows because no matter what anyone tells you, they're not gonna change your mind?
@BlueMetalChick They should like each other though, they have much in common. My super-conservative Catholic part of my family have more in common with jihadist values than with mine. The two are just right wing conservatives of different religions.
