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And yet Conservatives are the problem

4meAndyou · F
The radical left socialist Democrat party is a recently created offshoot of the radical left communist party, represented by political activists all over this country, and by college and university professors everywhere, and by Anti-fa.

The sole purpose of the communist party in this country is, and always has been, the destruction of the roots of our Democratic Republic. Things like the law, belief in God, morals, and strong family units are being purposely attacked and eroded so that we will become too weak and demoralized to resist. That has always been the plan.

I listened to a California democrat on tv two weeks ago, who says that it is the state legislature of California, who are all straight up communists, who have created the mess of homelessness and disease and drug abuse in L.A. and San Francisco.

The radical socialist Democrat party believes that there is a huge chunk of voters out there who will only re-elect them and vote for them if they support radical socialism.

If you examine the list of people, above, you will see a list of politicians desperate for re-election at any cost, who wish to pander to what they believe are the most prevalent beliefs in the United States. You may also see two or three politicians listed who are allowing themselves to be used as puppets by political activists representing foreign terrorist groups.

The so called "entertainers" listed above, like the politicians, are also just desperate for attention at any cost, and will cooperate fully with political activists, and with what they perceive to be their young activist fan base.

ALL of it is a scream for attention.

In fact, most of the above histrionics have backfired.

Politicians would be better served promising things they can actually deliver, instead of pie in the sky.

Entertainers may believe that shock value is the only way to go, when, in fact, fun and good music and good comedy is the only way to go.
4meAndyou · F
@4meAndyou https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/09/527586682/california-assembly-votes-to-allow-communists-to-hold-state-jobs
@4meAndyou Have a nice lunch. I need to do that and will probably be busy this afternoon as well, but I'll try and get a chance to look at your NPR link.
@4meAndyou Yup, I looked at that, and it seems more indicative of rejecting McCarthyism as archaic and unacceptable than it is evidence of a need for reviving it, but then again, its California, so who knows. Those guys are always on the bleeding edge, usually liberal, occasionally conservative, but rarely in the mainstream.
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Scubaguy027 · 46-50, M
@HeilHitler lol. You mean just like liberals? There are douches on both sides.
@HeilHitler The loony left is off the chain. They know it, but they don't care. "The end justifies the means>" That is their battle cry on their endless march to the destruction of this nation. That and "Motus in ratione" (Emotion over logic)
SW-User
If you only see issues with the rhetoric used by a single side of the political spectrum, you are drowning in your own team’s Kool Aid and are part of the problem. As the saying goes, it takes two to tango. The discourse in the U.S. has degraded to the point that it’s unrecognizable, and there are plenty of anecdotal examples of people from both the right and left abandoning principles and ceding the high ground. Anyone tempted to respond to me with “what about....” or “but _____ started it” or “ ______is worse”, save it. You’ll just end up sounding like a grade schooler and making a fool of yourself.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Try again I know you have the ability to add some positive substantive contribution to the discourse. @SW-User
SW-User
Just to recap, this is the so-called question as it was asked by the OP...

[quote]And yet Conservatives are the problem
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Then, the OP includes a list of awful things done and said by people on the left.

Hence my response....

[quote]If you only see issues with the rhetoric used by a single side of the political spectrum, you are drowning in your own team’s Kool Aid and are part of the problem. As the saying goes, it takes two to tango. The discourse in the U.S. has degraded to the point that it’s unrecognizable, and there are plenty of anecdotal examples of people from both the right and left abandoning principles and ceding the high ground. Anyone tempted to respond to me with “what about....” or “but _____ started it” or “ ______is worse”, save it. You’ll just end up sounding like a grade schooler and making a fool of yourself
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The initial post was nothing more than a what-about-ism. I addressed the what-about-ism. That was the substance of the initial question/post, and my response addressed that. Far be it from me to train you or the OP to ask better questions, but if you or the OP want a different response, ask better questions.

Was I clear enough [u]that[/u] time, or should I draw pictures?

@jackjjackson
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
You’re an artist too? Wow!1@SW-User
curiosi · 61-69, F
Amazing at it sounds they really don't see themselves as the problem. It's what narcissists do "project". Just look at the responses so far, facts shoved right in their face and they are still claiming "republicans are the problem".
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AbbeyRhode · F
Hypocrisy and projection. Every evil accusation they make against Trump is actually true about themselves.
The so called Squad will not be re-elected in 2020. Even the Democrats are tired of their bullshit.
@Shutup

1)Re: the mayor:

I'm still waiting to hear how he might lawfully pass a "law" by himself, much less whether he should be removed from office for not trying it.

Remember what I said about Trump not confiscating guns by executive action?

This sounds like a typical Trump rant.

2). Trump threatening to declare Antifa a Domestic Terrorism also seems pretty similar to screaming about the Steele Dossier.

Has he done the same with white supremacists? Or is he screaming the threat as a whatabout and and a distraction from his reactions to allegations that he's inciting domestic terrorism himself?

This kind of stuff is not what the President should be doing. He was not elected to defend himself, but to serve the public and uphold and enforce the very laws he seems to misunderstand and hold in contempt.

If you think I'm wrongly accusing you of supporting or aiding and abetting him in his abuse of office, I'm sorry, but this kind of factual distortion for blatant self serving political interests really disturbs me.

Facts do matter, but the deliberately lying or distorting them as a pattern and practice (modus operandi) matters more and does more damage than an isolated mistake or even a single instance of "puffing," or shading.
@MistyCee maybe law isn't the right word but he can institute an ordinance that prohibits protestors, no matter their political affiliation, from wearing masks so they can be identified. That would be a strong deterrent against the violence that antifa is perpetrating. He should have done that as soon as the Chief of Police suggested it, and I believe the fact that he has not done it yet is because of his political views. He has shown that he doesn't care who gets hurt as long as it's not the group he supports and has called the antifa protests peaceful. If it were conservatives doing this you could bet your bottom dollar it would have been implemented already.
@Shutup Mayor's can't usually pass ordinances. That's usually a city council thing, an IMO, conscious liberals and conservatives alike should have issues with executive actions where the legislature (either Congress or a city council) declines to act and the executive does something like that without a true emergency which prevented them from doing it.

Conservative didn't used to mean authoritarian or dictatorial, although under Trump that seems to have changed.

I can't defend this guy, and I personally think he probably ought to have at least gone on the record that he'd support such a law if the council would pass it.

Again, the bigger picture problem is Trump blaming local officials. Bush did a tiny bit of that after Katrina and he got some heat. But, with Trump, it seems to just be the way he works. If he can blame anything on anyone who's not his friend he does.

I'd probably annoyed with this guy if I lived in Portland, but slamming him without knowing all the facts is just wrong, imo.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Failing NYT and fake news CNN gleefully publicized all of it. Somehow here we are with the President defeating China in the trade war, the plotting dems beginning to face the music and the President headed to a resounding re-election.
@Budwick [quote]

@MistyCee We agree on something - your opinion is meaningless.

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I'm going to ignore responses like this.
@Shutup That's not an encouraging poll result, but to clear up how someone quoted me out of context (without even the courtesy of tagging me), I was offering a possible opinion I liked as to why the market might be up instead of down this morning:

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MistyCee
@Jackjjacksonjr ahh. The markets. And. who's opinion should be accepted for what they mean?

Accepting for a moment that higher stock prices are a good thing, why not attribute them to Trump's second thoughts?

Or the fact that he only embarrassed the country so much?

The explanation I like, personally is that Republicans and voters seem to be wavering in their support of Trump, but of course, I'll admit that's an opinion and don't even joke about divine inspiration or infallibility.

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When was that poll?
@MistyCee https://scottrasmussen.com/trump-likely-to-win-in-2020/
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
Jack, of course you know that it would be easy to come up with a list of comments made by the President and many leading members of the so-called conservative party that would put this list to shame.

There’s plenty of blame to go around.

Why must you consistently resort to finger pointing?

I thought you had the potential to be better than this.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@jackjjackson At this point, you need more than meme reinforcements, Junior.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
At every point you’re barely worth a meme. You do not even shower. @MarkPaul
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I don't think Conservatives are really the problem. Mostly, it's Trump, and he's no Conservative.

In fact, at the moment, it looks like he's the best thing to happen for liberals in decades.
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@pismo A big part of it for sure, anyway.

But, while I agree and can't resist doing it myself sometimes, I don't think its all that productive to point fingers at voters.

That, I think, leads to becoming part of the problem and doesn't help much with except with solutions I'm not comfortable with, like rounding them up in camps, or telling them to leave and go drink their koolaid somewhere else.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
As Americans we should be hoping for the best for all of us. @MistyCee
Graylight · 51-55, F
Yes, conservative and far-right terrorism is on the rise, is real and far outweighs leftist violence.

Words are words. Violence is violence. So yes, conservstives - some of them - are free problem
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
This is your defense of Baby-trump? Since there are others who speak in hate-terms that makes Baby-trump not one who incites hatred and violence? You must be one of the few satisfied certificate graduates of (Baby-)trump University... before it was closed down for fraud.
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QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
Oh no, not snoop dog 😂😂😂
Scubaguy027 · 46-50, M
@QuixoticSoul I'm surprised he could quit smoking pot long enough to shoot any video lol
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Scubaguy027 Chances are, snoop is brighter and more energetic than either of us. He’s not in a business where anything is handed to you.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Snoop votes Republican most of the time part of the 1% 😂😂😂 . @QuixoticSoul
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jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Not sure there is much we agree on politically my friend. @pismo
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