I support them wholeheartedly and hope that more Labour MP's join them. As well as Tory MP's.
Labour under Corbyn is not the Labour Party that I have supported all my life. Even Michael Foot wasn't as much of an ideological fundamentalist as Corbyn & Co. And he barely lasted five minutes. The fact that Corbyn has lasted this long shows me that politics has become fractured to the point of dysfunction.
@room101 that's what you do when you want to judge politicians who are always full of weasel words. Look at their voting record and financial interests but it seems you would rather just forget and take everything that these politicians say at face value.
Panama seems shady as fuck but you defend it.
I didn't say what words Chris Leslie said were untrue but I doubt he means what he says.
Why did you stop voting labour? What policies were so abhorrent to.you to abandon your whole families ethos?
@gol979 Oh you doubt that he means what he says, and that's perfectly fine by you because..........you've looked at his voting record and his financial interests.
Well I've looked at the words and actions of Jeremy Corbyn (throughout his political career) and it turns my guts.
Can we stick to one thread. Jumping from one to the other is getting tedious.
A completely socialist Labour Party may well be unelectable, but unless they all at least believe socialist principles can work in the real world, then they are not an alternative to rabid capitalism. @gol979
@Pikachu I'm not sure tbh. Lol. They will struggle to get elected without the Labour brand. Only two of them really have a personal vote based on their own political skill.
Chukka Unuma is one of those and their leader. He once edited his own Wikipedia page to describe himself as the British Obama. He is an arch careerist but his career has been frustrated by the left turn under corbyn. A lot of this is about ego and the project might not go anywhere.
Sooner than I thought and not as many as I feared, but the entire antisemitism thing is just playing endlessly. Even though I actually tried to uncritically look into this and there's just... just nothing.
Particularly considering how antisemitism is baked into alt-right thinking and has become horrifyingly mainstream. Just replace the word globalist with Jew and you have a tale as old as time.
@Burnley123 If you can, look up the diary column in last week’s Spectator by the Labour MP Jess Phillips.
More generally, many people, myself included, regard anti-Zionism (ie opposition to the existence of the state of Israel) as tantamount to anti-semitism. Obviously some will dispute that. But I think that difference of opinion helps to explain the current problem in the Labour Party, with some people convinced that the party is anti-semitic, while others, probably including J Corbyn, genuinely don’t understand what the fuss is about.
@MartinII It is that but it also follows the pattern of last few years where the party MPs have worked to undermine corbyn. They tried to get rid of him but the membership, myself included, fought to keep him and succeeded.
It leaves labour divided because the rest of the MPs will blame corbyn as much as the splitters.
@bijouxbroussard it kind of is here too. The right of the Labour party is very pro Israel, as is the right of the Democrats. Corbyn has history with Palestinian rights groups and is such a leftist on foreign policy that he once wanted to abolish NATO. The MPs resigning are somewhat liberal(ish) on domestic issues and hate corbyn foreign policy.
