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Microsoft will discontinue support for Windows 10 in a year and a half 馃が

I understood and respected it when support for older versions was dropped when those weren't sold for 10+ years anymore and only 0.5% of Windows users was still on them. Those customers probably needed a new machine anyway and fixing security threats for so few people is expensive, so okay.

But 70% of users is still on Windows 10 and machines sold as little as 3 years ago are incompatible with an upgrade to Windows 11. Those machines could have lasted much longer.

Besides, when Windows 10 came out, it was announced as the final version. From then on there would only be security updates and minor feature additions but no more complete replacements. Well, that aged like milk...
OntheroadM
If I understand your post, 70% of Windows 10 users do not have a PC (desktop or laptop) that meets the following basic requirements:


Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with two or more cores on a compatible 64-bit processor or system on a chip (SoC).

Memory: 4 gigabytes (GB) or greater.

Storage: 64 GB or greater available disk space.

Graphics card: Compatible with DirectX 12 or later, with a WDDM 2.0 driver.

System firmware: UEFI, Secure Boot capable.

Internet connection: Internet connectivity is necessary to perform updates, and to download and use some features.



Is that correct? I can't imagine it can be that high of a percentage - those are some low benchmarks.
ABCDEF7M
@Ontheroad Trusted Platform Module (TPM) is a security chip on a PC's motherboard or processor that enhances a computer's security and privacy. TPM 2.0 is required for Windows 11 to run and is used for several features, including:

1. Windows Hello: Identity protection
2. BitLocker: Data protection
3. Platform Crypto Provider: Prevents the private key associated with a certificate from being copied off the device if the machine is compromised

As per stat counter, Desktop Windows Version Market Share Worldwide for Windows 10 for April 2024 is 69.89% while for Windows 11, it is 26.19%

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/desktop/worldwide
NerdyPotatoM
@ABCDEF7 ash, so it can be on the motherboard or processor. Then there's a chance only replacing the CPU is enough. Still shouldn't be required after 3 years though.
ABCDEF7M
@NerdyPotato You can still try to upgrade to Windows 11 without the TPM, although it is not recommended by Microsoft. You may like to watch below videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a77KbR-AZq8

youtube.com/watch?v=ovgWN6YD2ws
ABCDEF7M
Microsoft is set to end the support for Windows 10 on October 14, 2025. Users can continue to use Windows 10 after that date by paying a yearly fee for Extended Security Updates (ESU). For the first year, the cost is $61. For year two, the price doubles, and it doubles again for year three. The blog post doesn't do the math on those, probably because the total is uncomfortably high. A three-year ESU subscription will cost $61 + $122 + $244, for a total of $427.

In the original announcement of Extended Security Updates last year, a Microsoft spokesperson said that there will be a version of this program for consumers, but the company has yet to provide any additional details.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/when-windows-10-support-ends-you-have-5-options-but-only-2-are-worth-considering/
NerdyPotatoM
@ABCDEF7 yeah, for consumers it will be 1 year for a yet to be determined price and after that it depends on demand whether another year will be offered. But the option to extend support is not mentioned in the announcement in Windows itself, so it looks like they're pushing towards a low demand for the first year, let alone a second one.

Nice that they "listened" to a petition, but in essence they'll still force and upgrade in 2026 instead of 2025 and make some extra profit in the meantime.
RilynF
This sounds like a repeat version of XP, Vista etc. Look technology advances rapidly if you don't advance with it your hardware won't be able to withstand it anyway. I learnt on Win 1995-96, tried to lean ECDL on the frigging Macintosh (which still gives me the creeps till today until I took it Privately on Win XP and passed the entire 4 classes of my school LOL ) and looking back at then to now I just say wow did I really do all that?

Just move as it goes.
RilynF
@NerdyPotato You got a point there and I kind of accept it. The problem is they don't seem to last decades any longer and they are meant to spend money anyway. It's all about business and technology advancement.
LordShadowfire46-50, M
@Rilyn Oh, so it's my fault I can't afford new technology to continue running Windows. Got it.
RilynF
@LordShadowfire I know. I understand but the developers out there don't. Sowwie.
Burnley12341-45, M
The tech gods decide and mortals abide.

Sad
Convivial26-30, F
I think, or hope that enough pressure will be applied to reverse that decision...i think it's just a naked grab to sell more win 11
NerdyPotatoM
@Convivial that's certainly what it feels like, and I do hope it will be extended by at least 5 years. And not just Windows 11, because that upgrade is free, but new PCs because that's needed for many people to get the free upgrade.

With all the talk about repairing instead of replacing appliances and countering planned obsolescence, I hope lawmakers step in too.
Convivial26-30, F
@NerdyPotato they should... That's s whole load of either waste... Or people ditching windows for Linux
NerdyPotatoM
@Convivial I don't see that happening either. There are a lot of compatibility issue between Linux and Windows, so if you regularly need to exchange things with others, it's hardly an option to switch unless they do too. And using Linux is a whole new skill, so getting everyone to switch is nearly impossible.
bookerdanaM
They keep on trying foist it on users after every update (my PC is compatible) but Win 11 is a trainwreck most have no desire to install or use....

NerdyPotatoM
@bookerdana yep, from what I heard it's pretty much the same, except the start menu is screwed up. So no new features, just the most important part doesn't work anymore.
bookerdanaM
@NerdyPotato A lot of open source programs are blocked...and if you have the time look at this horror story

[media=https://youtu.be/00q7yVhpkVo]
SubstantialKick31-35, M
They are just trying to get people to upgrade to Windows 11, on machines that don't really even need it, yet.
Lol... Guess I'll be open to all the hackers, then... 馃ぃ馃ぃ馃ぃ
DDonde31-35, M
That was fast.
LordShadowfire46-50, M
@DDonde That's what she said.
LordShadowfire46-50, M
Great. Well, it's been a fun ride, but I can't afford a new computer just to continue getting support, so I guess fu褋k me.
LordShadowfire46-50, M
@Ontheroad I don't know. I'll see where we are in a year and a half, I guess.
NerdyPotatoM
@LordShadowfire I just found out that it was announced on their website much earlier and there has already been a petition. Microsoft has since promised to offer longer support against payment. 馃槖 That wasn't in the message that popped up in Windows itself though and there are a bunch of other problems with that strategy, but I won't bore you with that.
LordShadowfire46-50, M
@NerdyPotato Oh, thank goddess.

Still gonna see about an upgrade.
FeetAreFantastic41-45, M
70% really?

I personally always hated Windows 10 and Windows 11 for me was a godsent. I love it a lot! But truth be told I did install it on a brand new and compatible machine a few years ago.

But yeah, there's no such thing as 'final' in software world.
@FeetAreFantastic 70% feels a bit high for me, too - but I have had 2 systems so far that are incompatible with the upgrade...

BTW, "Godsend" is the word that you are looking for...
NerdyPotatoM
@FeetAreFantastic @HootyTheNightOwl it feels high for me too, but that's what it is...

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