Microsoft will discontinue support for Windows 10 in a year and a half 🤬

I understood and respected it when support for older versions was dropped when those weren't sold for 10+ years anymore and only 0.5% of Windows users was still on them. Those customers probably needed a new machine anyway and fixing security threats for so few people is expensive, so okay.

But 70% of users is still on Windows 10 and machines sold as little as 3 years ago are incompatible with an upgrade to Windows 11. Those machines could have lasted much longer.

Besides, when Windows 10 came out, it was announced as the final version. From then on there would only be security updates and minor feature additions but no more complete replacements. Well, that aged like milk...

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Ontheroad · M

If I understand your post, 70% of Windows 10 users do not have a PC (desktop or laptop) that meets the following basic requirements:

Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with two or more cores on a compatible 64-bit processor or system on a chip (SoC).

Memory: 4 gigabytes (GB) or greater.

Storage: 64 GB or greater available disk space.

Graphics card: Compatible with DirectX 12 or later, with a WDDM 2.0 driver.

System firmware: UEFI, Secure Boot capable.

Internet connection: Internet connectivity is necessary to perform updates, and to download and use some features.

Is that correct? I can't imagine it can be that high of a percentage - those are some low benchmarks.

Convivial · 26-30, F

@Ontheroad there's also a whole slew of CPUs that are modern and fast that are excluded

NerdyPotato ·

@Ontheroad no, 70% of Windows users are still on Windows 10. Exact numbers of how many people can't upgrade without replacing their PC are unknown, but that's estimated to be 40% of them. Especially the TPM chip is an issue.

Ontheroad · M

@NerdyPotato maybe I need some schooling... do you mean TPM chip? I thought TPA chips were used in audio amps.

NerdyPotato ·

@Ontheroad yes, sorry, autocorrect.

Ontheroad · M

@Convivial so, basically processors that came out before 2018, right?

Ontheroad · M

@NerdyPotato that's cool, I'm the king of typos and bad autocorrects. So you are referring to the same chip security issues @Convivial was referring to?

NerdyPotato ·

@Ontheroad I don't think so. I bought my PC in 2021 I think, and that doesn't seem to have one. Although there's a small chance I can enable something in the BIOS. I still have to check that. But that's a ridiculous technical skill requirement to keep using a PC that works perfectly fine as it is.

NerdyPotato ·

@Ontheroad we may be referring to the same thing, yes.

Convivial · 26-30, F

@Ontheroad not so much, there are quite recent ones when win 11 came out that were excluded due to some incompatiblity with win 11... Ok on ein 10 though

ABCDEF7 · M

@Ontheroad Trusted Platform Module (TPM) is a security chip on a PC's motherboard or processor that enhances a computer's security and privacy. TPM 2.0 is required for Windows 11 to run and is used for several features, including:

1. Windows Hello: Identity protection
2. BitLocker: Data protection
3. Platform Crypto Provider: Prevents the private key associated with a certificate from being copied off the device if the machine is compromised

As per stat counter, Desktop Windows Version Market Share Worldwide for Windows 10 for April 2024 is 69.89% while for Windows 11, it is 26.19%

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/desktop/worldwide

NerdyPotato ·

@ABCDEF7 ash, so it can be on the motherboard or processor. Then there's a chance only replacing the CPU is enough. Still shouldn't be required after 3 years though.

ABCDEF7 · M

@NerdyPotato You can still try to upgrade to Windows 11 without the TPM, although it is not recommended by Microsoft. You may like to watch below videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a77KbR-AZq8

youtube.com/watch?v=ovgWN6YD2ws