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Is delusion a mental illness?

When Biden did poorly in the first debate, most Democrats admitted it. This time Trump did poorly (even by FOX NEWS) and his base along with Trump himself, refuse to face it or blame everyone else. Do we really want a totally delusional person with his finger on the button regardless of his policies?

“When a prizefighter loses a fight, the first words out of his mouth are, ‘I WANT A REMATCH,'” Trump posted on Truth Social, asserting that he won Tuesday’s debate with Harris despite some polls showing otherwise.
HumanEarth · 56-60, F
Did you see Kamala Harris having a different voice accent for each area or demographic she is trying to address?

What's wrong with these people people? They act like this is not the digital world and we can see everything with a click of a mouse button.

And people wonder why I don't support either side and vote for None of thee above
@HumanEarth I just explained why a flat tax is unfair. As a poor person, your taxes would go up. If that's what you want, feel free to send the government more money voluntarily.

Please provide a link to wherever you got that quote. I suspect it's from some fringe publication that completely mischaracterized whatever they think happened at the UN. The problem with the UN isn't that it's some all-powerful entity bent on world domination. For the most part, it's useless. We have two major wars going on right now, and the UN basically has their thumbs up their asses.
HumanEarth · 56-60, F
@LeopoldBloom

https://zenit.org/2024/05/26/analysis-towards-a-one-world-government-general-assembly-negotiates-the-future-of-the-un/
@HumanEarth Zenit appears to be a Catholic publication put out by an evangelizing group. I wouldn't call them an unbiased source. Fears of the UN instituting a one world government have been around since before the UN existed.
Where are you getting that Fox News thought he did poorly? My husband watches Fox News and immediately after the debate they were interviewing their people about it. They talked about many moments where they thought he did well. They made comments about what he could have talked more about to drive his points home. But overall they praised Trump and said he was the winner which was way different than how many others see it. They thought the moderators were biased saying they didn't fact check Kamala on things they said have already been debunked.
@SomeMichGuy Did you not see where I said
I see now what @Handfull1 was basing the post though.
I was trying to find the videos of what I saw because you were thinking I saw it on the local news or they were people on the street. I was trying to show you some of what I saw.
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@midnightrose Ok. I appreciate your efforts. Thanks for setting me right on your context.
They are admitting it. Nobody makes excuses for a winner.

“Kamala got the questions in advance”
“The moderators were on her side”
“Her earring was an earpiece and someone was feeding her the answers”
“Haitians really are eating pets”
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Spoiledbrat Multiple citizens testify to their experiences with Haitian immigrants to city council. One of them details witnessing Haitian immigrants killing ducks at a pond.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/09/09/full_replay_residents_of_springfield_ohio_speak_about_wave_of_haitian_migrants_at_city_commission_meeting.html
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@SumKindaMunster [media=https://youtu.be/9SeMHr-sYuM?t=14]
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
The thing is , up until the day before the debate , those same Dems swore up and down JoeB was his sharpest ever .
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@AthrillatheHunt correct! A big difference!
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@AthrillatheHunt Precisely. The rumors about them eating pets in Ohio are racist at their core. They're basically saying, "These people don't know how to behave in civilized society. We should send them back." And I've seen no sign of that. They recognize that the animals roaming the streets in this country are not for food. They know when they've got it better than they did back home. Nobody's going to go around hunting the neighbor cats when they can get meat at a reasonable price at the corner store.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@LordShadowfire yup. it’s just absurd . In other words , par for the course .
Northwest · M
This seems to be a common theme.

Conversely, if Harris had bombed, then Democrat voters would have pulled away from her bid for the presidency.

Not the Republicans. Party before country.
This is what happens when someone overdoses their microdosages!
@Guardian I’m convinced Trump was on a speedball of coke and beta blockers.
@LeopoldBloom with a touch of dementia thrown in for good measure!
It's literally a cult. The dear leader decides on what reality is.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
Yeah, but he has "concepts of a plan."
1234cardiff · 61-69, M
🚨🤷‍♂God help American and our world
I hope the i t is secure so no fake voting make him win eg Russia china koria.
Lock up your pets 🤷‍♂
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pancakeslam · 41-45, M
Biden didn't just do poorly. He did poorly for a coma patient. They must have been delusional letting him even go into a debate.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@pancakeslam I don't know. Revelation 13 has a pretty good description of him. 😆
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@pancakeslam maybe one antichrist from each team? We could be opposing cheerleaders!
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Handfull1 I mean, their side has a guy who convinced all of his followers to wear his mark on their foreheads, wants to implement tariffs, dreams of creating massive detention camps for immigrants, has arguably violated all ten commandments, and has many of his followers convinced he's the second coming of Christ. He's even suffered from a supposedly lethal wound to the head from which he recovered in less than a day. How much more Antichristy can he get?
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Everyone has a voice. What you are saying is a threat to democracy.
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@Spoiledbrat where did I say anything different?
@Handfull1 I thought you were talking about voters when you said..."Do we really want a totally delusional person with his finger on the button regardless of his policies"
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M

“When a prizefighter loses a fight, the first words out of his mouth are, ‘I WANT A REMATCH,'” Trump posted on Truth Social, asserting that he won Tuesday’s debate with Harris despite some polls showing otherwise

When a politician is behind in polling, they want another debate. If they are ahead, they don't.
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@SumKindaMunster Harris is ahead in most polls.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Handfull1 If we elected Presidents by Popular Vote, yes. But we use the electoral college and Trump is still favored.

https://substack.com/@natesilver/p-146002606
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@SumKindaMunster either way it will be a close race!
darkmere1983 · 46-50, M
it doesn't matter what you think, Trump is a legend.
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@darkmere1983 so was Jack the Ripper!
swirlie · 31-35, F
@darkmere1983
...and I think that you are also a legend just like Trump, a legend in your own mind.
SW-User
@darkmere1983 Not for the reason you might think:


AnonymousUsing · 22-25, M
Halved or missed.
Moneyonmymind · 31-35, M
So you’re saying Kamala would be a better president? 😂 yeah no. Things were better under trump
Moneyonmymind · 31-35, M
@SW-User wrong. Things were much better. We didn’t have very high unemployment or a ridiculously high amount of migrants crossing the border. So keep taking drugs ok??
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@Moneyonmymind unemployment was very high, although much was do to Covid. Migrants must have been an issue or Trump wouldn’t have promised a wall with Mexico to pay for it. He had 4 years and didn’t deliver. You should at least get your facts straight.
Moneyonmymind · 31-35, M
@Handfull1 again you people are shifting blame. Accept Biden was a terrible president boomer.
swirlie · 31-35, F
I'm not trying to test the basis of your question, but I have always maintained a theory that every single person on earth is delusional about something.

Does that mean that all of us are mentally ill? In many ways yes, all of us really are mentally ill when you stop and think about it.
swirlie · 31-35, F
If a Psychiatrist diagnosed you as being mentally ill, how would you know if your Psychiatrist is correct or mistaken?
swirlie · 31-35, F
@Handfull1
No guarantees? But what if your Psychiatrist declared you mentally ill and was about to ship you off to a mental institution?

Would you just take his word that you are mentally ill because you have delusional thoughts about something which in his opinion, confirms his assessment of you?
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@swirlie so delusional thoughts are productive in society? Many schizophrenics have delusional thoughts that are not productive even for themselves. You’re doing a lot of hypotheticals with me. I’m not running for President.
swirlie · 31-35, F
@Handfull1
No, you're not running for President, but we were all children at one time.

Did you not believe that Santa Clause was real for a while, until you decided that he wasn't real at all? Were you delusional before or after that decision was made about Santa's reality?

Trump believes that he won the debate with Kamala, but only recently has he been admitting that he actually lost the 2020 Presidential election to Joe Biden.

Did Trump win in 2020 or did he lose? Your answer will depend on what you want to believe is real, no different than Trump wanting to believe that he won the debate with Kamala Harris. Are you delusional or is Trump?
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