Bumbles · 51-55, M
Jesus is too woke for Republicans.
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@ShadowSister I’m so sorry. 🖤🫂
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@JustGoneNow Don't be. When I was in college, I made a commitment to follow God wherever that may lead. I have never gone back on that commitment.
I used to place a high value on my knowledge about God. My shelves were lined with books about the Bible, highly technical scholarly stuff. I don't think I was arrogant about it, or at least I guarded my heart to try not to be. But that knowledge was one of my prized possessions. In this part of my journey, all of that has been stripped away from me. I experienced such a tremendous sense of peace the day I packed up all my biblical scholarship books and put them in storage.
If God is real, then I'm right where I need to be on my journey as well. Part of that means no longer claiming any right to knowledge that God is real. Because as soon as I start to, I slip right back to that pattern of valuing knowledge. I'm where I am right now because this is my journey.
But I have deep respect for other people's journeys that look different from mine. When I say I used to be where you are on your journey, it is not because I believe I have moved beyond you. Rather, it's because our journeys have entirely different paths, and the part you are on right now looks a lot like the part I used to be on. That was a really great place to be. ❤️
I used to place a high value on my knowledge about God. My shelves were lined with books about the Bible, highly technical scholarly stuff. I don't think I was arrogant about it, or at least I guarded my heart to try not to be. But that knowledge was one of my prized possessions. In this part of my journey, all of that has been stripped away from me. I experienced such a tremendous sense of peace the day I packed up all my biblical scholarship books and put them in storage.
If God is real, then I'm right where I need to be on my journey as well. Part of that means no longer claiming any right to knowledge that God is real. Because as soon as I start to, I slip right back to that pattern of valuing knowledge. I'm where I am right now because this is my journey.
But I have deep respect for other people's journeys that look different from mine. When I say I used to be where you are on your journey, it is not because I believe I have moved beyond you. Rather, it's because our journeys have entirely different paths, and the part you are on right now looks a lot like the part I used to be on. That was a really great place to be. ❤️
@ShadowSister you’re gonna make me cry. that was beautiful. ty for enriching my life with the experience of your friendship and I’m truly honored to call you friend. 🖤🤗
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
That's 14 more times than I expected. And more than I have gone during the present administration. I would have guessed Carter with the most.
@ShadowSister Biden is actually very devout, he just doesn’t tout it. He’s talked before about his faith being the bedrock that pulled him through when he lost his son Beau to brain cancer when Beau was just 46 years old.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
That surprises me since Carter is an evangelical Christian and taught Sunday School for many years following his presidency. Biden doesn't need to blow his own horn. Trump has hundreds of horns going offkey at high volume continuously.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
George W may not have been a prolific church attendee, but he used to hold prayer breakfasts at the White House and sought divine guidance for his foreign policy.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@JustGoneNow I loathed him at the time because his policies seemed to me to be directly responsible for my parents being continuously deployed to foreign war zones. But context and the passage of time make him appear quite a reasonable leader.
@SunshineGirl I can see that. For me, I didn’t hate everything he did nor did I love everything he did either. I’m kind of a mixed bag on politics. I’m far too conservative for some of my Democrat friends at least on certain issues and also far too liberal for my Republican ones, at least on other issues. I’m kind of a truist when it comes to freedom and sort of don’t like anyone telling me what to do on the left or right. I tend to always default to personal freedom on everything, except when it presents an imminent danger to the general public like shouting Fire in a crowded theater. As my rights end where yours begin. Often I actually join the left and right together in shared hatred of my ideas but I call it progress. lol
LeopoldBloom · M
@SunshineGirl Trump showed us that politics is a profession and politicians have to learn their craft. There are certain norms that everyone took for granted because it never occurred to anyone to break them. Trump ended all that and now the Republican party is basically open to whatever they can get away with.
walabby · M
Yeah, but Joe is Catholic, and Catholic churches don't count! XD
@LeopoldBloom woah. that’s my shit right there. you know the Jeffersonian Bible was a Bible that Thomas Jefferson had commissioned that only has the stuff in it that appears after “and Jesus said.” That’s very similar.
LeopoldBloom · M
@JustGoneNow Jefferson was a Deist who admired Jesus as a moral teacher but had no interest in the supernatural. The people who constantly bleat about how the US is a "Christian nation" seem to forget the religious views of the guy who wrote the Declaration of Independence.
@LeopoldBloom the things is how consistent Jesus’s message is. You take all the supernatural stuff out and Jesus’s message doesn’t change at all.
JPWhoo · 36-40, M
Okay, but why do we care which president went to church the most?

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Well we know for sure it's not Trump. Since he is not even sure which side is up while pretending to read a Bible lol
Convivial · 26-30, F
Did any of that make them better or was it just expected for the polls
Convivial · 26-30, F
@JustGoneNow ok, I'll accept that
LeopoldBloom · M
@Convivial I don't think religion makes anyone "better" unless their life is circling the drain and they get support from a faith community. That wouldn't apply to any of our presidents. In their case I think church attendance is an expression of their inner character. I don't think Trump is a bad guy because he doesn't go to church; he's a bad guy who also doesn't go to church.
Convivial · 26-30, F
@LeopoldBloom he's a chameleon... Her be whatever wins him votes
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
BarryO listened to the calm and soothing sermons of the rev Jeremiah wright. Lol
LeopoldBloom · M
@AthrillatheHunt When was the last time you went to church? When your parents could still force you to? And just because Obama attended a Black church doesn't mean he's not a Christian, Adolf.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@LeopoldBloom sadly, as an adult I’ve turned into a holiday Christian . I was raised RC but worship at a Lutheran church these days , but only a handful of times a year .
Rev Wright spews anti human philosophies. He is no man of God, more like a Christian Farrakhan.
Rev Wright spews anti human philosophies. He is no man of God, more like a Christian Farrakhan.
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fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
Did he go to confession? If so, the priest probably couldn't stop laughing!
@LeopoldBloom He’s still my Pope. I’ve been very pleased with many of his stances. Others, not as much. But he’s still my Pope.
LeopoldBloom · M
@JustGoneNow I don't agree with many of his positions, obviously, but I appreciate how he has pivoted away from the culture war stuff and has focused more on poverty and wealth inequality. He's also reformed the Curia which was overdue, like several centuries overdue. This is an old article but explains a lot.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/09/14/holy-orders-letter-from-the-vatican-alexander-stille
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/09/14/holy-orders-letter-from-the-vatican-alexander-stille
@LeopoldBloom He’s a Franciscan. That’s what they do. Franciscan’s are always worried about poverty and the plight of the common person. I’ve not been surprised.
Anyone honest knows Trump is not a Christian.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic And anyone Christian knows Trump is not honest.

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calicuz · 56-60, M
I thought they all went to church every Sunday. 🤷♂️
LeopoldBloom · M
@calicuz LOL
fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
Did he go to confession?
SomeMichGuy · M
Trump went to church 14 times during his presidency.
I'm assuming this is attending, not just using his then-power to intimidate others and walk to a church just to get a quick photo-op outside it:
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Had to pretend to be "Christian"...
(See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_photo_op_at_St._John%27s_Church)
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LeopoldBloom · M
@MarmeeMarch No, he doesn't constantly advertise how often he attends church the way Republicans do.
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Who cares?
LeopoldBloom · M
@SW-User Just pointing it out for the benefit of the fake Christians on here who never set foot in church themselves, yet complain that Biden isn't religious while Trump is.

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