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Bill Gates changes mind on Global Warming.

Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates, who has spent more than a decade warning that the world was on the brink of unimaginable peril due to rising global temperatures, now says climate change “will not lead to humanity’s demise” in a stunning reversal.

Gates, 70, who has sunk billions of his vast fortune into initiatives ostensibly meant to combat global warming, penned a lengthy blog post this week urging a shift away from the “doomsday outlook” many climate activists have adopted to terrify nonbelievers into seeing things their way.

Democrats were ready to bankrupt the world over global warming.
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samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
I think that you may be misreading Gate's statement. What he stated now was that he doesn't believe all life will cease because of climate change, but that many people will die from lack of food, housing will become less available, etc. It is also so that the effects of climate change will be more profound on those in the lower socio-economic levels, further produce inequity.

He came to realize that using the doomsday approach was counterproductive in trying to explain the problem.
@samueltyler2 True, but many of the offsets increase carbon uptake by planting trees.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@ElwoodBlues a worthwhile endeavor, but not nearly enough.
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@ItsMeMorgue says
I'm guessing that's because the least intelligent among his detractors saw that previous deadlines passed without the bad thing happening, like all the rainforests disappearing by 2000,
Did Gates ever say that, or is that another straw man fallacy?

I think many opponents of Gates & Gore misunderstood the predictions and deadlines. The most significant deadline was and is the "tipping point." This is the point at which there's enough CO2 in the atmosphere that we can't get back to the climate & sea level equilibrium that spanned the 1800s and 1900s. I think many opponents of Gates & Gore mistook the tipping point for the final event.

In the 1990s, predictions of the year of tipping point were based on continuing or extrapolating the exponential growth in CO2 output seen in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.


As you can see, the exponential curve has shifted. This pushed the tipping point farther in the future. Gates' 2021 book was about carbon reduction to avert the tipping point entirely. His new strategy seems to say that is no longer possible; that mitigating the effects on the most vulnerable is now a better approach.

A NOTE regarding plane fights by climate activists, entertainers, etc. In this day and age it is very easy to purchase carbon offsets for your travel, and that's what these people do. Here are some reputable providers
1. Gold Standard
2. Verra - Verified Carbon Standard (VCS)
3. Climate Action Reserve
4. American Carbon Registry

You can also check out the United Nations Carbon Offset Platform.
Subsumedpat · 36-40, M
He has not changed his mind at all just I’m his focus on what we can do to help people.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
You have wilfully misrepresented what he actually said.

He was proposing a more pragmatic approach to global warming, weighing it up against other threats to humanity. For example, given the choice between eradicating malaria and allowing temperatures to rise by 0.1°C, he would choose the latter.

That in no way implies a downgrading in the severity of climate change.

Why is he seeking a more pragmatic approach? Because there is now so little money designated for climate change mitigation and it has to stretch further than ever before.
DogMan · 61-69, M
Astonishingly, Gates goes so far as to point out that cold — not heat — is a far greater threat to humanity, writing, “surprisingly, excessive cold is far deadlier, killing nearly ten times more people every year than heat does.”

He even noted some of the ways the obsessive focus on lowering greenhouse gas emissions has negatively impacted the very groups climate alarmists have warned would suffer most due to rising global temperatures.

This is true. The alarmists have kept poor countries from developing gas and coal power plants, that have
kept their countries from prospering and progressing into the future.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@ItsMeMorgue I'm sorry, I forgot that I need to treat you special, and do everything I can to keep from
triggering you. No one mentioned Trump, but I see above that you brought your TDS out into the open.

I will refrain from using the T word, as I don't want to upset you.

I'm leaving the office now to head to Utah for a long weekend of riding, take care.
ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F
@DogMan
I'm sorry, I forgot that I need to treat you special, and do everything I can to keep from triggering you.
I didn't realize using common courtesy and honest debate tactics was "treating me special".

I'll ask it again, since your attention span seems to be tragically short.

Are you in favor of polluting the air with toxic particles that will eventually kill us just so that people won't be cold in the winter, when there are better ways of keeping people warm? Yes or no?

I will refrain from using the T word, as I don't want to upset you.
Who, the guy who keeps passing executive orders intended to erase the T in the LGBT, whom we all know is coming for the rest of us? That guy? No, the fact that you blatantly kiss his ring doesn't upset me.
@DogMan says
Astonishingly, Gates goes so far as to point out that cold — not heat — is a far greater threat to humanity...
Your conclusions would only make sense if heat and cold were the only causes of death among humans. Since that's absolutely NOT the case, let's look at what actually kills humans.

#1 is heart disease; extremes of both heat and cold exacerbate heart disease; for example heat causes the heart to pump faster and harder to cool the body, while cold can constrict blood vessels raising blood pressure.

#2 is stroke, with the same heat and cold effects as #1.

#3 is lower respiratory infections. And that's where mosquitoes enter the conversation. The mosquito is far and away the world's deadliest animal due to the diseases it carries.

So how does global warming affect mosquito habitat and activity? It extends their geographic range and gives them better habitats due to increased average rainfall. And it extends their season because temps need to fall below 50°F to inhibit their activity.

In short, warming increases human deaths thru increased mosquito habitat and activity period.
When did Gates say global warming or anthropogenic climate change would "lead to humanity’s demise”?

Oh, wait, Gates never said any such thing.

In 2021, Bill Gates' climate strategy focused on a goal of reducing global greenhouse gas emissions to net zero through innovation and technology, as outlined in his book How to Avoid a Climate Disaster. This approach emphasized a "green premium" that made clean energy cheaper than polluting methods, supported by government policies and private investment in new solutions for sectors like cement, steel, and agriculture.

Gates' 2025 approach is a shift in strategy to focus on human welfare. The "lead to humanity’s demise” claim is a straw man.

SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
The timing is certainly interesting. His old company, Microsoft joined the rest of the tech industry in betting big on AI and OpenAI.

They are gonna need a lot of electricity and power to run all those LLM data centers.

I'm sure that's just a coincidence. 😉
Rising sea levels will ultimately threaten our low lying coastal cities. This is an economic issue, not an existential one. Pretending the issue doesn't exist only makes it more expensive to deal with in the long term.

8000 years of sea levels


Average sea level rise since 1880
https://www.globalchange.gov/browse/indicators/global-sea-level-rise

Increased coastal flooding in last 20 years
https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-coastal-flooding

Local sea level rise, mm/year, as measured by GPS
ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@ItsMeMorgue they were always way out there. In college the young Republicans seemed more right than Attika the Hun.
ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F
@samueltyler2 So, the last generation of Young Republicans grew up and are now running the party, is what you're saying.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
tenente · 36-40, M
He just wrote a memo that tried to do too much. He mix climate, poverty, and health in one package: diluting his point and opening up to attack. That’s a failure in presentation. It proves he's really bad at being a celebrity, perception is fundamental. He bundled, he blurred, and critics pounced. Epic fail. Bill Gates didn’t reverse his stance.
ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F
@tenente But leave it to the right to oversimplify his press release until it says the opposite of what he was trying to say.
tenente · 36-40, M
@ItsMeMorgue Oh, agree. And to be clear: I'm not a BG fan.
DogMan · 61-69, M
I heard someone say recently that the reason they know rising oceans is a hoax, is because, if it were true.

There is not a mortgage lender on the planet that would give a 30 year mortgage to anyone building on the beaches of the world.
ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F
@DogMan Oh, sweetie, look at you, doing the best you can with what you've got.
If ever there was a badly written Bond villain… bill gates is that guy
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@ItsMeMorgue oh sweetie.. did anyone care what you said on this thread?
ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout
DogMan · 61-69, M
How long before the Left changes their mind on Gates? He will now be known as the most dangerous man
on the planet.
ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F
@DogMan As opposed to you, who are definitely not dangerous.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@DogMan Because he challenges political orthodoxy and uses his own fortune to place people before profit?
BigGuy2 · 31-35, M
Something has happened behind the scenes, as in him being warned by someone, because this is a person that has stated:

"There are too many [carbon entities] humans in the World"

Then proceeds to become the #1 landowner in America

 
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