AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
Many people find it reminiscent of mussolinis brown shirts and equate it with fascism, unless you’re a protestor .
BrandNewMan · M
@AthrillatheHunt Only those looking for every chance to fit that lib buzzword into every discussion.
Illegal immigrants being caught / deported by agents of the country they are in is law enforcement .. not fascism. Doesnt matter what those agents wear.
What it is in reality is excuse making .. taking the side of the criminals instead of the citizens of this country.
Illegal immigrants being caught / deported by agents of the country they are in is law enforcement .. not fascism. Doesnt matter what those agents wear.
What it is in reality is excuse making .. taking the side of the criminals instead of the citizens of this country.
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BrandNewMan · M
@AthrillatheHunt Exactly.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
It's about accountability. What they currently are is a nameless, faceless secret police force unaccountable to both the community and local government. They have been documented numerous times conducting unlawful searches without a warrant. There are numerous allegations of them manhandling and using excessive force to detain people, including US citizens.
The long and short of it is they are violating people's rights without any legal consequences. Having them show their face is a way to hold them accountable to the people. After all, isn't that what the US is all about?
The long and short of it is they are violating people's rights without any legal consequences. Having them show their face is a way to hold them accountable to the people. After all, isn't that what the US is all about?
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@TinyViolins Per our other discussion, I am moving on. You are repeating a lot of your previous points and I don't feel the need to repeat mine.
Thank you for your time, and my apologies if you were personally offended by some of my statements.
Thank you for your time, and my apologies if you were personally offended by some of my statements.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@SumKindaMunster Yeah, you said that last argument too. See ya in the next one, I guess
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@TinyViolins Yep! I look forward to you not acknowledging any of this and responding as you always do.
Have a great weekend!
Have a great weekend!
DogMan · 61-69, M
Foreign Secretary Ebrard discusses new labor mobility pathways to the United States
The Foreign Secretary says there are many ways to enter the U.S. in an orderly, safe and regular manner, and urges Mexicans not to risk entering the country without the proper documents.
From 2022-2023, about 885,000 work permits and visas will be issued to migrants in the U.S.
Last year, 360,656 H2A and H2B visas were issued to Mexicans in the U.S., the highest number in the history of our country.
This is proof that we do not need illegals to work in our fields. It is a red herring perpetrated by the left.
The Foreign Secretary says there are many ways to enter the U.S. in an orderly, safe and regular manner, and urges Mexicans not to risk entering the country without the proper documents.
From 2022-2023, about 885,000 work permits and visas will be issued to migrants in the U.S.
Last year, 360,656 H2A and H2B visas were issued to Mexicans in the U.S., the highest number in the history of our country.
This is proof that we do not need illegals to work in our fields. It is a red herring perpetrated by the left.
ElwoodBlues · M
@DogMan says
tRump himself says to let those undocumented farm & hotel workers stay!!
This is proof that we do not need illegals to work in our fields. It is a red herring perpetrated by the left.
tRump himself disagrees with you!!tRump himself says to let those undocumented farm & hotel workers stay!!
WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump said he plans to make changes to his administration's aggressive crackdown on illegal immigration to protect migrant farmers, hotel workers and others in the leisure industry who have been among those deported.
Trump promised the changes in a June 12 Truth Social post that acknowledged Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers have expanded arrests beyond just migrants convicted of violent crimes, who Trump officials have said are the primary targets of raids and deportations.
"Our great Farmers and people in the Hotel and Leisure business have been stating that our very aggressive policy on immigration is taking very good, long time workers away from them, with those jobs being almost impossible to replace," Trump wrote on the social media platform he owns.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/06/12/trump-immigration-migrant-farmers-hotel-workers-deported/84166061007/Trump promised the changes in a June 12 Truth Social post that acknowledged Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers have expanded arrests beyond just migrants convicted of violent crimes, who Trump officials have said are the primary targets of raids and deportations.
"Our great Farmers and people in the Hotel and Leisure business have been stating that our very aggressive policy on immigration is taking very good, long time workers away from them, with those jobs being almost impossible to replace," Trump wrote on the social media platform he owns.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues I believe he is talking about the undocumented people with work Visa's. There may be some without
work Visa's working in the fields.
work Visa's working in the fields.
ElwoodBlues · M
@DogMan Nope, a work visa is a powerful form of documentation only available to those who have been authorized to enter and work in the country legally.
tRump is proposing a "don't ask don't tell" policy for millions of undocumented agricultural workers.
tRump is proposing a "don't ask don't tell" policy for millions of undocumented agricultural workers.
"Our great Farmers and people in the Hotel and Leisure business have been have been stating that our very aggressive policy on immigration is taking very good, long time workers away from them, with those jobs being almost impossible to replace,"
That's a green light to farm & hotel managers to hire the undocumented.
TexChik · F
They know that if they can be identified then their families can be attacked , causing the officers to quit. Its ok for rioters to wear masks, just not LE
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
It's so they can doxx and threaten them and their families.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@SumKindaMunster What? The kind inclusive left? The party of peace and love?
Pinkstarburst · F
If they have no problem doing their job then they should have no problem showing their face. Why hide?
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@Pinkstarburst It's a lot more about their family and home that it about them.
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@Pinkstarburst Not sure he was a Republican. If that's your argument now then go with it. 🙄
Pinkstarburst · F
@nudistsueaz It is clear we will disagree. I respect your opinion and hope you have a great afternoon. 🙂
MasterLee · 56-60, M
I thought the left wanted everyone masked
MoveAlong · 70-79, M
Mostly shame.
BrandNewMan · M
@MoveAlong Shame for what? Doing their job? There is NO shame in that.
meJess · F
It is sad when law enforcement have to conceal their faces to avoid repercussions for themselves or their families.
It is much sadder when you have a true police state and law enforcement don’t care if you see them.
It is much sadder when you have a true police state and law enforcement don’t care if you see them.
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SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@DogMan My wife heals and takes care of people, within the law and without regard for their national/ethnic origins or financial means. Although she occasionally receives threats of violence from stressed patients or their relatives, she does not feel the need to disguise her identity because she is confident that all her actions are legal and other parts of the medical profession have her back covered should something go wrong.
The only time she wears a mask is to prevent the spread of infection. It would do little or nothing to prevent a person determined to track her car back home from work.
The only time she wears a mask is to prevent the spread of infection. It would do little or nothing to prevent a person determined to track her car back home from work.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@SunshineGirl Thats great, but it is Apples and Oranges.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@SunshineGirl Are there violent political factions out there, say like Antifa that exist to purposefully harm your wife while she does her job? That organize and promote violence against her and others doing a similar job? That seek to physically harm her and her family for what she does?
If not, then I agree that it's not a relevant comparison.
If not, then I agree that it's not a relevant comparison.
WowwGirl · 36-40, F
I love a mask for any reason. I wish they would use Halloween masks though
MayorOfCrushtown · M
Never know when that Covid might strike.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@MayorOfCrushtown Thats right, they are just trying to protect the illegal immigrants. Hell I still see people
wearing masks in the gym and disinfecting equipment before and after use.
But no one EVER cleans the handle on the front entry door. 🤣
wearing masks in the gym and disinfecting equipment before and after use.
But no one EVER cleans the handle on the front entry door. 🤣
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SpudMuffin · 61-69, M
Why do ICE agents need to wear masks?
carpediem · 61-69, M
@Hopelandia Baloney. All this wacko rhetoric further divides. You must be another hapless Brit sticking his nose where it doesn’t belong.
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carpediem · 61-69, M
@SumKindaMunster There seems to be an endless supply of them.
markinkansas · 61-69, M
any one can buy a ice suit and fake being ice if masked and no id.. wonder if the proud boys will start doing that.. nice way to harass someone
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
To dox them.. and maybe… just Maybe.
Theyl be too scared and intimidated to do their jobs and stay home..
Theyl be too scared and intimidated to do their jobs and stay home..
MarineBob · 56-60, M
Fine now any protesters with any facecovering is open season
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Bumbles · 51-55, M
@BrandNewMan What's funny to me about your response is how not woke I am. I'm a centrist Democrat. I think to you all Dems are "commies" so it's probably a distinction without a difference to you.
In terms of the tax money, one thing to keep in mind is the economic concept of wealth creation or "transforming resources." In any economy, wealth is created when resources (raw materials, labor, etc.) are transformed into something of greater value. For example, a baker creates wealth by turning wheat into bread creates because the bread is more valuable than the raw wheat. The farmer creates a greater profit margin, if labor costs are down harvesting the wheat. Illegal workers create increased wealth to the farmer because they are underpaid and the farmer doesn't pay payroll taxes or into Workers Comp.
Illegal labor is a net massive wealth creator.
In terms of the tax money, one thing to keep in mind is the economic concept of wealth creation or "transforming resources." In any economy, wealth is created when resources (raw materials, labor, etc.) are transformed into something of greater value. For example, a baker creates wealth by turning wheat into bread creates because the bread is more valuable than the raw wheat. The farmer creates a greater profit margin, if labor costs are down harvesting the wheat. Illegal workers create increased wealth to the farmer because they are underpaid and the farmer doesn't pay payroll taxes or into Workers Comp.
Illegal labor is a net massive wealth creator.
BrandNewMan · M
@Bumbles Illegal child labor is a nonstarter. What do you think is happening to the 10s if thousands that cane under Biden ?
I see distinctions between old school dems and the woke libs. The old school has largely abdicated leadership of the party. They are nearly mute in terms of their voice being heard. I see the Republicans in much the same way. Both are dominated by their fringe. I dont have an issue with immigration .. a 10-12 MM illegal inflow in a 4 year span is not an immigration system .. its an invasion. Our budget/debt are already out of control .. giving benefits to an additional glut of people from outside the country that our own people dont get if fucking lunacy. Dire situations tend to force dire responses .. here we are. I voted accordingly and stand by that vs what Harris would have done.
I see distinctions between old school dems and the woke libs. The old school has largely abdicated leadership of the party. They are nearly mute in terms of their voice being heard. I see the Republicans in much the same way. Both are dominated by their fringe. I dont have an issue with immigration .. a 10-12 MM illegal inflow in a 4 year span is not an immigration system .. its an invasion. Our budget/debt are already out of control .. giving benefits to an additional glut of people from outside the country that our own people dont get if fucking lunacy. Dire situations tend to force dire responses .. here we are. I voted accordingly and stand by that vs what Harris would have done.
Hopelandia · M
No. It’s to hold them accountable for their crimes when the Republicans are finally booted out.
WowwGirl · 36-40, F
Imagine the avengers coming in to take you away.... Way cooler
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Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M
WowwGirl · 36-40, F
@Fukfacewillie that's better, see that has more meaning
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