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PalteseMalconFunch · 36-40, T
Well, the right wing wants to gut their organizations and force anti intellectual rhetoric into everything and destroy every foundation of our already deficient education system.

So yea…I’d wager a lot of them support democrat candidates.
@PalteseMalconFunch Things only a dixiecrat southerner says...
@sunsporter1649 was only playing your song.
PalteseMalconFunch · 36-40, T
@NativePortlander1970 Ok? Tell me what you think that does in this context?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@NativePortlander1970 [media=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDI4MXcmSww]

SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
Teachers have a professional interest in teaching children and improving society through raising educational standards. A majority of teaching professionals believe this is most efficiently done through state funded and directed education and not wasting time and money on letting narrow interest groups interfere with curricula or the running of schools. If you interpret that as "left wing", that is your prerogative. But there are some things that are so important they transcend party politics.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@SunshineGirl State sponsered education?

DogMan · 61-69, M
@sunsporter1649 What is that little girl looking at? Does she think that's a baby bird between his legs?
DogMan · 61-69, M
Sunsporter made me think about this. Are the teachers fighting for the 300,000 missing
migrant children? Are the NEA folks looking for them? Where are they? Are they working
the fields? are they being taken care of? Does anyone care?
Remember how politicians who advocate for teacher unions and public schools decry charter schools send their children to private schools. Such behaviors are not rousing endorsements for teacher unions.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
Of course unions are left wing what the fuck is a right wing union.

The very foundational concept of left vs right wing is baked into the relationship between workers and employers.

That said I don't think unions should donate to political parties. My union doesn't. But unions are explicitly left-wing organizations. It is impossible for a union to be right wing.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@CountScrofula I understand all right.

If a labor union isn't radical enough for you, they aren't "true labor unions". Therefore they don't count.

All swans are white, but if I see a black one... then that's anomalie and doesn't challenge the rule at all. 🤷‍♂
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Burnley123 So you have an organisation, that has police officers as a member. And that organisation, tries to bargain (collectively, for the entire group) for better working conditions and better wages for it's members. But it's a right-wing thing, because the police uphold the capitalist system. Therefore, they aren't left-wing. But also you:

Organising for the interests of workers against bosses is the very definition of leftwing.

And then we haven't talked about what the organisations drive is to do what they do. What kind of society they are trying to push for.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Kwek00 Because the world is not black and white and there are exceptions to the rule.
First of all, they are professional unions, which might push them to the right of trade unions, but I think teachers tend to have a left-wing bias.
Having said that, I think it's a bit sophomoric to decisively put the lot of them at a single point on the political spectrum.
carpediem · 61-69, M
@ImperialAerosolKidFromEP I think the question is whether or not the teacher's union(s) are left wing themselves. And the answer is most definitely a resounding yes. You'd have to be blind not to see it. Also, I have information most are not privy to that has confirmed that fact.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@ImperialAerosolKidFromEP union exist to perpetuate themselves.
Teacher unions do nothing to improve education
JPWhoo · 36-40, M
They have a strong tendency to support left wing candidates because they have a strong tendency to support policies that are favorable to both unions and education, both of which, as you can imagine, are highly valued ideals within teachers unions.
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DogMan · 61-69, M
@JPWhoo Do you know that 50% of the dues they collect, go back to Democrats to get them
elected?
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
Organising for the interests of workers against bosses is the very definition of leftwing.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@DogMan I was speaking of unions generally.
For teacher's unions, it's whatever government body pays and negotiated their wages.

In the UK it's the national government. I believe that in America, it's usually done at state level.
Thrust · 56-60, M
@DogMan their bosses are the taxpayers who have no say in what they pay out to them. Public sectors should NEVER be allowed to unionize
DogMan · 61-69, M
@Thrust And on top of it, if they don't do their job, it is almost impossible to fire them.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
It depends on the underlieing philosophy. If they are actively trying to persue some form of equality, then yes. If there is another goal, like creating harmony in some organic concept of a national body OR because of the teachings of some mystical being or teacher (aka something irrational) ... then no.
Virtually exclusively
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
Lol right wingers want child slave labor and want everyone to be in prison working for the corporations. Does this sound like they're for workers rights?

Thanks for the laugh though
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@DogMan
So you don't think kids should be allowed to work? That's sick!!! I had many
jobs as a kid. So you think kids should be what? 16 before they know what a job is?

They did studies and found lead in factories contributed to impaired neurological behavior, impaired hearing, decreased intelligence. They've done studies on the impact slavery has on children with their early childhood development. Most families aren't subjecting their kids to work long hours at factories because they have all the money in the world, it's due to necessity, not some moral obligation. The affects of slavery are well documented mentally and physically.

But you know what's sick? You can't think of any solutions other than slave labor. That's crazy to me. There's many things you can do as a parent to take part in active involvement in your child's life. You can create structure where there is none and encourage creativity and resilience with different exercises too.

Like I've never met anyone who just outright said that you have to have child slave labor in order to build character lols, that's a literal stereotype you're doing right now.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@SatanBurger Where do you think there is slave labor? We know slavery is on going in many
places in the world, along with other bad stuff. It is illegal in the U.S. If you know of
someone participating in slavery, it is your duty to turn them in, or you are as bad as them.

I think maybe you don't know the difference between slave labor and work. Do I need
to explain it to you?
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oldguy73 · 70-79, M
very true most of thier money went to democrats and things they wanted
Figures that teachers who aren't making enough money already should be robbed by their unions in order to fund corrupt government agendas the left wing has been forcing on our country and children all this time 😤 ugh
markinkansas · 61-69, M
all unions are
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Convivial · 26-30, F
Your point being?
Let's talk about the quarter of A BILLION that Musk gave to the republicans and what he hopes to gain from it
Convivial · 26-30, F
@Thrust maybe it is... Doesn't detract from it being true or relevant though
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@Convivial and your point is?
Worker than woke.
Theyl transition your kids with out telling you
The same ilk within the failure of the DOE who advocate for lowering standards for teachers; and to their confusion, hurting the education
Of the students they are supposed to be teaching. Here in NJ the fools are ok with teachers who are not certified to teach basics.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@soar2newhighs same in Chitcago. As many as 70% of teachers cant pass the basic proficiency exam
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Teachers unions control the schools.
They work to install leftist politicians who then reward them with lucrative contracts and block school reform
More like self serving leeches on the Democratic Party, a colossal failure go the students they’re supposed to be educating.

 
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