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The attack on Paul Pelosi

Will any of you who pushed the conspiracy theories regarding the incident now admit how wrong it was to do so?
helenS · 36-40, F
Conspiracy theorists will see anything which contradicts their theory as a confirmation thereof.
Ynotisay · M
I saw it on Reddit with the headline, "Police do nothing in Pelosi attack."
It doesn't matter what people see or hear. It's all about how they perceive it. So I can GUARANTEE there's people out there selling this is a fake and a set up. No doubt in my mind.
Northwest · M
@Ynotisay I kind of agree, the cops should have rushed in, before the guy could send Pelosi to the ER with a fractured skull, instead of casually asking "hey, what's going on here".
Ynotisay · M
@Northwest OK. To me it looked like they were trying to assess the situation and, initially, diffuse it. I don't know what information they had as they walked up to that door. They responded immediately when the attack took place. If they went in right out of the chute they'd be accused of police brutality or overreach. If they waited longer it's "the police don't care." It's a lose-lose situation.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@Ynotisay Realistically, when the door opens and the cops see a guy standing there with a hammer in his hand and holding the arm of the other person, they should know something isn't right... 😖
Carla · 61-69, F
The reality that this happened to mr Pelosi in the first place is the punchline for these cretins. They would have taken pleasure if he had been brain dead and nancy was forced to pull the plug.
We are living amongst monsters...
@Carla And yet they think being described as hateful is "harsh". 🤔
Carla · 61-69, F
@bijouxbroussard which of course, is the epitome of ridiculousness.
One need only look to what leads them...
They always knew the conspiracy theories were bullshit, they just didn't care. Conservatism is anti-reality.
@sunsporter1649 Except none of these right-wing conspiracy theories are ever proven true.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@BohemianBoo Conspiracy theories arent about being true. They are either about allowing people to avoid facing the truth. Or to allow people to gather into a common cause, when they feel so isolated and insignificant they cant find another way to go on...😷
@whowasthatmaskedman I agree with all that, plus it's about feeling special. Like you have this amazing truth that 99% of society doesn't know about.
I think that's why the modern Right keeps fragmenting. A community based around conspiracy theories can't get too big because then the "truth" that you know isn't special anymore. Your community always has to be small to be special.
Sadly, I doubt they will. Nothing must interfere with their narrative.
Least of all, [b]facts[/b]. 🙁
Piper · 61-69, F
I'm [i]pretty[/i] sure none of them will. I'm pretty sure most of them are delighted and oddly 'titillated' by the whole incident, due to their hatred for Nancy Pelosi and anyone perceived as remotely [b]liberal[/b].
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Piper We know, she is such a sweet old lady, never a bad word about anybody, loving and caring, staying beside her husband during his time of need, never leaves his bedside
Northwest · M
I usually side with the MAGAs, but just in this specific case, there's a chance they may be wrong. Just a slight chance.

Anyone can make that mistake. I mean, it's possible, as suggested by Musk, Tucker and the entire Fox network, that the guy may be too small to fit through the broken glass door, or it could be one of those role play things, where Pelosi has a male prostitute, break through a glass door, and surprise him, while asleep in his underwear. Who sleeps without a 3-piece suit, right? Anyone doing that, is certainly hooking up with male prostitutes.

Obviously, this video is a deep fake. You've heard of AI, right?

[media=https://youtu.be/yTPCUpwRz74]
@Northwest I will say on a related note that it's always interesting to me that cops try to tell suspects to drop whatever weapon they are holding, even though I'm sure they know it won't work.
Northwest · M
@LordShadowfire They could have really prevented this from happening. Paul Pelosi is not fully recovered yet. What's up guys was not going to cut it, especially given that they were there in response to a 911 call from inside the house. Having seen the broken glass, did they think he's in the middle of a home improvement project?

It's a well known "secret" that some cops in SF (and Seattle) are deliberately not responding to certain calls, to make a point.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
They can't admit they were wrong. They are too invested in the conspiracy theories from they were lovers to they were friends because the attacker claimed they were friends.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
Why dwell on one conspiracy that can't stand up to logic when there are more to spread. Besides, what about "them libs?"
Eeyore122 · 36-40, F
No such thing as them having integrity.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
Liberals admit they were wrong? Talk about asking a lot.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@Kwek00 Certainly didn't say to stop,which is as bad. Go ahead and have the last word. I won't read it or anyone else.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@MrBrownstone So you admit that you were wrong then? Cause we changed the subject. But hey,changing the subject kinda saved you from substatiating yet another baseless claim. Since I'm not going to make you proof a negative, I'll defend Biden by doing all the things you are incapable to do.

[quote][b]LEMON:[/b] I'm sure like many Americans, you have watched this pictures that are coming out Minneapolis and St. Paul and other cities, these protests. They're happening all over the country. No one condones this kind of destruction. But what do you say to these protesters, many of whom are outraged, Mr. Vice President. They are sick and they are tired of black men being unjustly killed. What do you say to them?

[b]BIDEN:[/b] I say they have a right to be in fact angry and frustrated. [b]And more violence, hurting more people, isn't going to answer the question.[/b] But they're totally correct, it is time it stops. We have to -- look, think about this. You and I have talked about this before, Don, in another context.[/quote]

[b]SOURCE:[/b] https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/sitroom/date/2020-05-29/segment/01

That's a quote from the 29th of may and the beginning of the riots were on the 26th of may. On the 30th of may he gave the following statement:

[quote]Protesting such brutality is right and necessary. It’s an utterly American response. [b]But burning down communities and needless destruction is not. Violence that endangers lives is not. Violence that guts and shutters businesses that serve the community is not.
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[/quote]

[b]SOURCE:[/b] https://medium.com/@JoeBiden/we-are-a-nation-furious-at-injustice-9dcffd81978f

This is June 2nd on ABC news:

[media=https://youtu.be/wfiZy4xvhu4?t=96]


But it's kinda hard to pick this stuff up when you are entrenched in your little conservative echo chambers that have abandoned reality in favor of their bigotted fantasies.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@tindrummer Changing the toppic and running away is way more courageous then admitting you are wrong. That's what decent folk do these days.

[b]EDIT:[/b] Lol, and then he blocked me too... cause that's what you get when you can't handle reality.
Smoothsailing121 · 26-30, M
Its a pitty he survived
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@Smoothsailing121 mate, the sad state of affairs is, while English is your only language, it's not your mother language, rather it's the language of your mother's cousin's friend she once met at a wedding.
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
This must be satire
@HannibalAteMeOut Sadly, this guy represents a lot of Americans. He's only on here when there's a commercial break on Fox News.
gol979 · 41-45, M
Well, its clearly not an "unknown" attacker
@gol979 Yes, they caught him and he had ID, so they know who he is.
The attacker engaged online with many memes from the far right and expressed interest in harming certain famous politicians mentioned in conjunction with those memes. Lets have meme wars with guns.
Virgo79 · 61-69, M
And i still think what i said, witch was... never know what those people are into.
And we still don't
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
I'm waiting for the GOPers to claim it was all CGI provided by Industrial Light and Sound. :(
What happened? Did the perp admit that he acted alone?
Of course they won't. Being an unhinged conspiracy crackhead means never having to say you're wrong.
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@LvChris I know. It's so funny when somebody makes horrible, hateful remarks about someone else, and never retracts them, even when it's obvious how wrong they are.

 
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