A 22 year old guy with a concealed carry license

@Fullmetal He is really a bag of sht.

He is creating a country with communist threads running though it and so many can't see it.
Some of us, we sense that sht is afoot.
Very serious sht, but that's globally too, but we sometimes take the cake, it's so disgusting and a shame, what Canada has become.
I still love my country but I despize the politicians running it, and where they are steering it.

The pandemic or 'plandemic', it was the straw.

@LunadelobosIAMTHEDRAGON I love mine, served mine for 4 years. I despise the politicians and corrupt bureaucratic dickheads and powerful crime families who run it and we can't do anything more than voting them out because no one really WANTS to go to prison

@SW-User I have a large extended family who live in Israel: One will ALWAYS see firearms openly carried basically 24/7, because there are very many Israelis who are enlisted at all times in the Army.
In Israel, the are are no mass shootings.
It is a very different mentality.

This is my post on here, which discusses that mentality:

https://similarworlds.com/6069664-I-Believe-In-Responsible-Gun-Ownership/1943947-So-let-me-post-for-you-a-quote-not-from-an

@Punxi im leary of the potential work remember that kid few years back that was shot for wearing a hoody cause he looked potentially bad

@Whyme Trevon Martin. Some who carry guns have bad intentions. Some don't. Not talkin bout arming everyone. Just hope that the score card is balanced and that the good side wins.

@Whyme Don't you have a different political system in Canada? Less polarization? I've only visited Canada (Toronto, Burlington, and Niagara Falls) once but the atmosphere was somehow different from the US. Of course it's a small sample so I don't mean it to be taken too seriously. In the US there seems to be a pervasive distrust in government institutions of all kinds, is it the same in Canada?

@ninalanyon not really its the same 2 party liberal or conservative there are other smaller parties but one of them two will be in power and its kinda east vs west east loves liberal west lives off oil so they love conservative east has bigger population so liberal wins till it gets so bad nobody can survive

@Whyme 8mm? 🤣

@ChiefJustWalks it also helps to have insurance as a gun owner. The USCCA is the best insurance against anti gun prosecutors, juries and judges we as responsible gun owners can have to keep our asses out of prison for wrongfully being put there because did the right thing by defending ourselves from evil

@TheSirfurryanimalWales And we get to the issue at the heart of it all. Australia's guns were banned, they are still breathing right, no one is brain dead or living on Mars or what have you?

I mean, LIFE continued right? ....

You know so much more about this, than I.


https://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9212725/australia-buyback

@LunadelobosIAMTHEDRAGON however other violent crimes had a major uptick sounding like criminals fear death more than the cops…

@TheSirfurryanimalWales Well, yeah, but the right to carry and bear "shall not be infringed" unlike other rights.

I'm not saying that Thomas was right and that the Founding Fathers made a conscious decision to enshrine individual liberty over everything else, but he set forth a cogent argument as to why the public welfare was prejudged and shouldn't be questioned, making the right to self defense against aggression preeminent.

I get what you're saying, but I also see what Thomas and his ilk are saying, and I think you're only going halfway.

Dead kids and dead innocent bystanders may be unfortunate side effects, but clearly our founding fathers took away the option of weighing those deaths against disarming those willing to live with them, right?

In case you didn't get it, I agree with where you're going, but I don't think you're going to get anywhere appealing half heartedly to the give me liberty or give me death crowd.

They're too tied up in their willingness to die for their own liberty.

@MalteseFalconPunch And what exactly is the cause?

@BlueVeins ok

@FreeSpirit1 Bad optics, to be sure. She does not represent the views of most of us who would like stricter gun regulation.

@BlueVeins someone needs to tell her that 500,000 to 2,000,000 defensive uses of a firearm against an attacker each year in this country that does save the good guy and others lives isn't an NRA MYTH. It's a cold hard fact backed up by actual data from the FBI's uniform crime report they release every year.

@saragoodtimes that's how it goes where I live. Almost everyone is packing. Do we still have our issues? Of course, drugs flooding in will do that. But at least we have a fighting chance being armed ourselves.

If any of you want a master class decades long case study on what REALLY happens when you put leftist gun control in place, just look at cities like Chicago, Detroit, L.A., Houston, St Louis, Minneapolis, etc. You'll find the number of people murdered is disturbing because for some reason or another, criminals by default don't follow gun laws.

@FreeSpirit1 This is not an issue I am heavily invested in, so I'm not particularly well-versed. I freely confess that I don't have much more than talking points. I typically hear a call for (a) universal background checks, and (b) 3-day waiting periods.

It's not fair that you were denied for giving the answer that it was your right. May I ask what state you are in?

@ShadowSister Massachusetts

@FreeSpirit1 Ah that makes sense. It would be a lot different if you were in, say, Texas.

@FreeSpirit1 Rittenhouse also put himself into a dangerous situation. There was no need for him to bring a rifle to a demonstration. But given his age, the real fault should lie with the cops who didn't take it away from him or ask him to leave. Instead, they thanked him for being there. If a cop had killed two demonstrators and shot a third, it would have been a shitstorm, but since it was a private citizen, the cops basically avoided involvement. Of course, the narrative would have been different if Rittenhouse had been there on the side of the demonstrators and had shot several conservative counter-demonstrators - "violent antifa/BLM lunatic kills peaceful citizens"

Nobody should be allowed to bring a rifle or a handgun to a potentially violent demonstration. If the skateboard guy had managed to kill Rittenhouse, we would have had a very different narrative - "brave citizen kills crazed spree shooter"

@LeopoldBloom If Rittenhouse was there on the side of the rioters they wouldn't have cared if he had a rifle, they attacked him because he wasn't on their side.

@FreeSpirit1 If Rittenhouse had been there to help the demonstrators, the cops would have arrested him.

I still think it's a parallel to abortion. It's OK to kill people who are threatening you, even if you put yourself into that situation.

@Whyme Have you read the story? There's something odd about this (for now) a quick summary:
"A shooting rampage that killed three people and injured two others at an Indiana mall ended after an armed witness shot and killed the assailant, police said."
"In the Greenwood mall shooting, the gunman apparently used a long-gun rifle, Ison said, though law enforcement had not immediately recovered any weapons from the scene."

I'll wait to see how this plays out.

@GeniUs i havent looked into it deeply just skimmed over it either way theres too many dead

@FreeSpirit1

See the following definition:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/vigilante

By this definition, he seems like a vigilante even if he's doing the right thing.

I don't see why vigilantes can't be heroes, btw.

Now, at the same time, they can be problematic

@carpediem see the definition I just cited. I'm not condemning what this guy did.

I don't generally think it's a good idea for citizens to have to take the law into their own hands, but in this case, I can see it and applaud it.

@TexChik I get it. Vigilantes can save lives and it looks like this guy did.

@AwakeningConfession221122 What stops a good guy with a gun? A bad guy with a gun.

Depends who’s got better aim.@Entwistle

@AwakeningConfession221122 It may well be the bad guy. They seem to have a good aim when shooting up schools or in Malls.

@Ontheroad https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/07/17/us/indiana-greenwood-park-mall-shooting/index.html

@FreeSpirit1 Thanks, after reading the article I have to say his actions in this instance were heroic. He could have walked away but choose to stop the killer.

There still remains for me concerns (based upon my life experiences) about the general public going about armed. However in this instance, his actions were heroic, justified and without collateral damage.