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European nations are preparing for war with Russia without the US. It seems to be reported on the news in three or four countries.

Europe believes Trump will get elected, his previous comments about him not committing to NATO -despite the US dragging Europe into their wars in the Middle East, this will embolden Putin to attack European NATO members.

War in our time. Of course it won’t stay in Europe. The US electing a morally indefensible, draft dodger as a leader with be an opportunity for nations on every continent to run amok.

The principles that have prevented another world war for the past eighty years are about to unravel.

One last dance, before the war?
helenS · 36-40, F
Yes, I'm a European and I think that's exactly what will happen. A Trumpist America will turn its back to the world, Russia will attack Europe and Trump will praise Putin as a smart guy. 😕
helenS · 36-40, F
@nocool [quote]When Trump was president, crime and inflation were low.[/quote]
US crime rate was low during [b]Obama's[/b] presidency and [u]increased rapidly[/u] during the Trump years, see here please, if you care to look:
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See? What you said about crime is just plain [b]wrong[/b] 😏
(source: https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/crime-rate-statistics)
nocool · 51-55, M
@helenS
I wasn't comparing to Obama...
Show me numbers duringthe current admin......
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Bumbles · 51-55, M
If elected, Trump will pull America out of NATO and support Putin in Ukraine. Best for Europe to prepare now.
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@helenS Excellent point.
Khenpal1 · M
@MarmeeMarch Ok print more dollars as Chinese do with Yuan 😂
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Morvoren · F
America tells people it’s a great nation. By the end of this year we’ll know if it’s true or not.
hunkalove · 61-69, M
@Morvoren We haven't been the good guys in a war since 1945.
nocool · 51-55, M
@hunkalove
Exactly... no one likes folks kicking their ass...
Naturally we are the bad guy... until someone needs something
MoonMoon · F
better to push russia quickly out of ukraine... the free world cannot tolerate war of agression like this
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
The only players on the world stage at the moment are Putin and Zelensky.

And the rest of the world isnt fond of either for the same reason.

The U.S public has no appetite to see American boots on foreign soil and the current leaderships around Europe are as venal as each other.
Just keen to rinse their own economies of money to line their own pockets for the brief period they're able before being turfed out for the next bunch of reprobates to do the same.

The 'prospect' of war is a good thing for incompetent leaders.
They can spout all the bull they like at any given microphone and gain newspaper / tv news headlines and temporary approval ratings will soar.
It also gives struggling economies the reason to borrow to boost their defence requirements while looking strong to their voters.

Tired old game we've played many times before
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CestManan · 46-50, F
@jshm2 The reason the USA sends aid to these countries is because if not, their refugees will all end up here.

It is kind of like if your neighbors were in trouble and you had the choice of either giving them money or having them come stay at your house.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
Which is why we need a TRILLION dollar defense budget.

Break the Russian economy like we did before.
nocool · 51-55, M
@beckyromero
You are correct
nocool · 51-55, M
Europe won't be at war without the US...
But everyone is gearing up for war being brought by Russia China and Iran...

Hard times are coming...
Blanchy · 31-35, F
I'm worried that it could have bad consequences in Ukraine if Russia invades NATO countries, but it might do some good too. /=
Without NATO there's no more war. Without America, they'd need to connect more with Russia. America isn't in Europe at all. Russia is.
smileylovesgaming · 31-35, F
Russia can't even beat Ukraine. Putin should just give up all ready
Elessar · 26-30, M
@smileylovesgaming It can't right now, their economy is however now geared up towards producing weapons and ammo as if there was no tomorrow. Europe needs to at least match that.

Besides, even if they can't capture land but reduce it to rubbles, I'd say it's still an issue.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
So, Europe is smarter than the US, I guess.
WintaTheAngle · 41-45, M
@ChipmunkErnie Nobody has said that so far. It’s however, questionable how beneficial America would find a future where Europe is dominated by Russia. It’s been said before that the 20th Century was Americas time, this century may well be someone else’s.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@WintaTheAngle I just said it -- maybe that's where you heard it.
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tenente · 100+, M
someone's got to put a bullet in putins brain 😠

 
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