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So…those who truly believe black artists have no place in country music…

Can go f*ck themselves. I’m not kidding. 🤨
Yee Haw ! 🤠
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dubkebab · 51-55, M
"All music is folk music 'cause all music is made by folks." -C. Mingus.

Although I do believe this quote was pre-Kraftwerk and AI,I still stick with it.
Our racist minded kin might as well also admit the huge extent to which good ol' classic country was steeped in gospel,but I wouldn't wish to injure their narrow little minds too much...
ArtieKat · M
@dubkebab I only saw Mingus live in concert once - in about 1971, at Liverpool University - but he was brilliant
dubkebab · 51-55, M
@ArtieKat If only you had sent 3 year old me a ticket .
Bet you weren't thinking of that,and how you could have altered my destiny,huh?
And I guess my Mom a ticket,so she could have,y'know,mothered me.
But she was never very into jazz,really.So it took me until college to start getting it.
Hey,I didn't take any three year olds to shows either come to think of it.
So we're cool. Glad you witnessed the legend.
dubkebab · 51-55, M
@BlueGreenGrey (auf deutch-naturlich)
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Some irony. The first American wave of Cowboys in the west were predominantly black, leter pushed aside after the civil war...😷
@whowasthatmaskedman That’s sad but unfortunately true,
I hear people say that immigrants are successful while blacks are not because (they say) black people are "undriven" (read "lazy"). They don’t realize that some immigrants do have family money, and when they don’t they often are able to receive grants and loans where blacks are denied.

Burnings of established black neighborhoods or properties because whites wanted the land, were numerous. My grandfather was a shoemaker, his shoe shop and repair business (which he shared with a sister who made hats) was burned down by the Klan because people of all races worked there together—a no-no back then.
OverTheHill · 56-60, M
@bijouxbroussard That's a great picture. Reminds me of Lawman: Bass Reeves I watched on Paramount +.
@OverTheHill Yes ! About someone who actually lived.
[b][c=008099]OMGOD! :D

I am happy and grateful that you brought me here, so I can learn about these artists.

I am so delighted!
I have been by and large unplugged from any recent country music, for at least a decade.

I cried : Ladies who were singing about beautiful magical black hair
and their hair was astonishing,
In general: they were a sight to behold: like goddesses and angels and
I love their sisterhood and bond, is so precious to witness.

I laughed and had me a honkey tonk good time : Darius Rucker is a cutie and fun! 🥳🤠

Exactly what I needed dear
Thank you very much ! (((HUGS))) 🌹 <3 [/c][/b]
GlitterEater · 36-40, F
Almost all American culture is black culture or heavily influenced by black culture.
dubkebab · 51-55, M
@GlitterEater I used to snicker at WP Skinhead bands ripping off Chuck Berry riffs. derp.
TheOthetAcc · 36-40, M
Yeah but for that girl to say "your people picked the cotton, they didn't plant it"... that's a hatred that comes deep within. There's nothing you could ever tell such a person. All that over a musical genre? She's going to die in that hate and I'm almost certain she claims Christianity
@TheOthetAcc Plus, she’s mistaken. Slaves planted cotton (along with other crops) [b]and[/b] picked it. Sounds like someone else who would’ve benefited from learning more about our history. 🙄
TheOthetAcc · 36-40, M
@bijouxbroussard Who needs facts when you can get by just fine on ignorance 😁
robertsnj · 56-60, M
My fav Darius Rucker song is [i]Wagon Wheel[/i] yeah i hear you. crazy how racists country music fans are/ the land of whistle'n dixie (as in Mason Dixon line) and stars and bars is.
@robertsnj I love his song:

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robertsnj · 56-60, M
@LunadelobosIAMTHEDRAGON wow that is a beautiful song. He is so talented.
@robertsnj I KNOW. OMGOD. I had no idea he was the lead for Hootie and the Blow Fish (not that I was into the band, I was very busy being a mom to a baby, ETC), he IS exceptional. And kinda gorgeous too. What a lovely person. I looked him up on the Wiki.

I need to post a very cool duet he sings with someone.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
What is their logic?

Would they also say that Swedes can't play country music because they didn't grow up poor white in the southern US?
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Or is it simply defined as not-country music?

How about a song sung by a white English alumnus of the London School of Economics? Definitely a southerner though :-)

The Girl with the Far Away Eyes:
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Or Do You Think That I Really Care
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ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@ninalanyon Or if those are too long ago how about this one from Hackney Diamonds written by Jagger during the pandemic
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Sounds like country to me. But of course I'm no more American than Jagger, though we are equally southern :-)
jackson55 · M
Charlie Pride was the first.
@jackson55 I posted one of his songs. He was the first to be commercially successful in country music. Pride was also a baseball player for the Negro Leagues.
I am stoked because my library carries a bunch of Rhiannon Giddens' CDs . And I have reserved them!😀🥰☺️

Thank you for bringing her to my attention. She is an eminently talented musician and vocalist.
She is now my fav new artist.

Wayfaring stranger brought tears to my eyes.
caPnAhab · 26-30, M
So, I've been watching A LOT of Avatar lately. Then I come across a favorite quote from the show from Master Piandao
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
I don;t care what color you are, you can play country if you want. BUT I've listened to Beyonce's new stuff and it doesn't impress me either vocally or arrangement-wise, though she does look good half-naked in the video. Give me someone who really believed in the music...[media=https://youtu.be/hRIRTQ_k-Sg]
@ChipmunkErnie Seriously, how do [b]you[/b] know whether or not she "believes in the music" (and what does that even mean) ? She’s from Houston, Texas and is participating in the kind of music she says she’s grown up with. [b]You[/b] may not like it, possibly because she’s the artist. But apparently other people do. Her album is #1 on the charts.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@bijouxbroussard #1 on the charts? To quote someone whose name I can't remember at the moment, "Well whoopdie-damed-do." That means nothing so far as the quality of the music. And yes, it's my opinion from listening to some rather boring music. Same as you have your opinion.
@ChipmunkErnie I guess I’m puzzled by the level of animosity. She couldn’t be the only person whose music you don’t care for. I still don’t understand how you think you can tell what she "believes" in, like she doesn’t have the [b]right[/b] to be part of that genre. That I don’t get, and it seems atypically unfair of you—imo. 🙁
I was a huge Charlie Pride fan
DownTheStreet · 51-55, M
If you look hard enough, you’ll find people that hate anything. I have lots of country music fans and they couldn’t care less what color or creed the musician is as long as it stays country.
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DownTheStreet · 51-55, M
@bijouxbroussard yeah. There is always gravity. Eminem will tell you the same thing.
@DownTheStreet Indeed. But nobody says he’s not a rapper because he’s white. In fact, much of the mainstream culture only find hip-hop palatable because of artists like Eminem.
Same way they accepted jazz and R&B when white artists adopted those genres.
Yee Haw squared :D !

🤗🌹
Zaphod42 · 46-50, M
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@BlueGreenGrey This is very moving, their duet.
What kind of a drum does he play?
@LunadelobosIAMTHEDRAGON I'm pretty sure that's a Persian daf he is playing (I believe he and she are a romantic couple as well)

[u]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daf[/u]



And I agree, she is pretty in addition to being talented


This is an interesting collaboration by the Carolina Chocolate Drops with the gypsy punk band Luminescent Orchestrii (they made a full EP together):

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@BlueGreenGrey Thank you. I will read about this later, I have to run to take my pain meds and get food ready for the family and myself.

Awesome. I reserved a ton of stuff by her and some are just for streaming. I am looking forward to blasting it :D
MethDozer · M
This was surprisingly hard to find on YouTube.


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dubkebab · 51-55, M
@MethDozer wow,epic. thanks for posting.
I thought I had a good handle on the Sun catalog,but there are always more dusty little gems.
@MethDozer My mother really liked Linda Martell, said her music should’ve gotten more attention.
MethDozer · M
Rhiannone Giddens is 😙👌
@MethDozer She’s amazing.
tenente · 100+, M
of all music, country is easily the saddest music. if you need to cry, country music corners the genre. there's some really excellent country songs by black and white artists and a lot of them know how to crush your heart
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@ChipmunkErnie When it comes to music, there’s a long, long history of whites making a lot of money from genres that originated in non-white communities: Swing, jazz, blues, RnB, soul (which they had to segregate with the title "blue-eyed soul"), Doo-Wop, Hip hop. Even Rock & Roll would be different, without black roots.

There has been exploitation where a [b]majority[/b] culture has been able to enrich itself without giving any credit to where the music originated. So much, that people today believe many of those genres began with the majority and seek to exclude others from participating

And I’m pretty sure you’re aware that professional sports were originally segregated in this country—by the white people who were in charge. If you think blacks have a problem with whites who can play, you should talk to some very old black players who had objects thrown at them, death threats made and were spit on when they were first [b]allowed[/b] to join established white teams.

Some things are only going [b]one[/b] way, because the [b]power[/b] isn’t equal. 😞
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@bijouxbroussard Got NOTHING at all to do with the fact I found her voice bland, the instrumentation boring, and the music uninspired as far as my reaction went.

And yes, I'm fully aware of prejudice in sports. My Dad, a high school football, basketball, baseball star in High School had to sit out a year before going to Rutgers because back in the 1930s Rutgers had a quota on the numbers of Jews they'd accept. And Hank Greenberg was routinely cursed at with terms like "kike", etc., from the stands in MLB -- even had porch chops thrown at him because the fans didn't want a Jew being a star.

Personally speaking, in the late 1960s I was harassed by police for having a mustache, and almost attacked by a drunken major at the Fort Momouth Officers Club because my hair reached my shirt collar -- luckily my football coach was the bartender and he stepped in. He had invited me to stop by.
@ChipmunkErnie You brought the analogies and so I addressed them. I agree that they [b]don’t[/b] apply to this post. But you’re the one who brought them. The fact is, there [b]are[/b] still some people who don’t think black artists belong in country music. Beyoncé’s album was the impetus for quite a few of them to come forward. This post was not addressed to any one person. I’m not saying anyone has to like Beyoncé.
But [b]anytime[/b] someone talks about folks needing to "go back" to pop music—or to wherever—I don’t like that.

 
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