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TexChik · F
If done only for laziness and convenience, then I believe it is. The unborn have rights.
If a woman (and her partner) do not wish to conceive then there are several choices available to be made to prevent that from happening.
abstinence
oral contraceptives for women
condoms for men
IUDs for women
diaphragms for women
contraceptive sponges and foams for women
the morning after pill for women
vasectomy for men
With all of these modalities available and then to still conceive a child only to demand to abort it? That is criminally negligent homicide. Their careless behavior resulted in the death of an innocent party. However, those women should have their abortion, but the consequence of their negligence is that they and their partner should be mandatorily sterilized . Knowing that before hand would probably make the use of contraception much less of a hassle for most couples.
If a woman (and her partner) do not wish to conceive then there are several choices available to be made to prevent that from happening.
abstinence
oral contraceptives for women
condoms for men
IUDs for women
diaphragms for women
contraceptive sponges and foams for women
the morning after pill for women
vasectomy for men
With all of these modalities available and then to still conceive a child only to demand to abort it? That is criminally negligent homicide. Their careless behavior resulted in the death of an innocent party. However, those women should have their abortion, but the consequence of their negligence is that they and their partner should be mandatorily sterilized . Knowing that before hand would probably make the use of contraception much less of a hassle for most couples.
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TexChik · F
@CrazyMusicLover In my perfect world, lib indoctrination and their destruction of the American education system would be stopped. The dept of Education (created by Jimmy Carter) would be abolished. Education would be privatized and subsidized and the expenses would be tax deductible. Schools who's students stop measuring up would have a change made in the company being paid to educate the students. Politics and indoctrination will not be tolerated.
You can find the 1860 9th grade final exam on line to see just how badly the American (democrat controlled) education system is failing our children and the country.
You can find the 1860 9th grade final exam on line to see just how badly the American (democrat controlled) education system is failing our children and the country.
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
@TexChik I'm not talking about American education. I don't know what subjects are normally taught and how. But unless kids will be taught elementary facts about male and female reproductive system, methods of anticonception and STDs, there will always be cases of unwanted pregnancies where the woman might have no idea of what is going on.
AbbeyRhode · F
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@AbbeyRhode It is the very worst form of inhospitality.
AbbeyRhode · F
@cherokeepatti Anyone considering it should be required to watch videos of the procedure, and see the babies recoiling in fear from the instruments, and writhing in agony as their bodies are torn apart.
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QueenOfZaun · 26-30, F
I would say It's murder. You are ending a life in the process of abortion. Even If that lifeform is not complete and cognitively self aware.
Whether it's morally justifiable murder or not is up for debate. I don't agree with the act of abortion however people should have the right to choose. I don't have the right to take someone's choice away because I know that not everyone's life experience is the same as mine.
If a woman is a homeless heroin addict and wants an abortion because she knows her child will never live a good life. I would agree with the abortion. If a woman gets impregnated through rape, she should be allowed to get an abortion.
The world is complex and morally grey. Their is rarely a clear right or wrong answer. Too many people don't think about the complexity of the situation.
Whether it's morally justifiable murder or not is up for debate. I don't agree with the act of abortion however people should have the right to choose. I don't have the right to take someone's choice away because I know that not everyone's life experience is the same as mine.
If a woman is a homeless heroin addict and wants an abortion because she knows her child will never live a good life. I would agree with the abortion. If a woman gets impregnated through rape, she should be allowed to get an abortion.
The world is complex and morally grey. Their is rarely a clear right or wrong answer. Too many people don't think about the complexity of the situation.
QueenOfZaun · 26-30, F
@SW-User Tell that to soliders, police officers, women who have abortions due to rape or people who kill in self defense. It's all a matter of perspective. The world isn't as simple as "Murder is bad".
strait46 · 46-50, M
@QueenOfZaun "right to choose " would you say that about toddler "parents should have rights to choose" killing their own noisy bratty stubborn toddler.
tallpowerhouseblonde · 31-35, F
No.Are we expected to birth the baby of a rapist?Are we expecting others to pay for our child because we are on benefits?Are we not only going to look after an unwanted child for at least 16 years but also expect and demand child support?What happened to our body our choice?
Thankfully living in Britain means these are questions I never have to answer.
Thankfully living in Britain means these are questions I never have to answer.
tallpowerhouseblonde · 31-35, F
@Harmony Don't you mean how many can make our own decisions and have the freedom to do so.When abortion is legal it is not murder.I don't expect you to understand this.Nor do you understand that I get to choose what to do with my body and don't have to tolerate others choosing for me.I really hope you never are in a position where you are forced to birth an unwanted baby or get pregnant because you have been raped.
Harmony · 31-35
@tallpowerhouseblonde I hope so too, but until then I won't blame the unborn by murdering it.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
strait46 · 46-50, M
@MrBrownstone did you notice age celebration BIRTHDAY that is why from birth. but fertilization
already chromosomes like human and NOT mother DNA, not her body not her choice.
i bet you don't even notice the pain and loss in infant circumcision. american culture is worse than cruelly awful.
already chromosomes like human and NOT mother DNA, not her body not her choice.
i bet you don't even notice the pain and loss in infant circumcision. american culture is worse than cruelly awful.
strait46 · 46-50, M
@MrBrownstone certainly, FIVE Punctuation marks wasn't enough so i repeat. "Did you notice? that age celebration BIRTHDAY, that is why, from "birth." (but.)
Also Fertilization,
already chromosomes +are like human.
Also NOT mother DNA, not her body, not her choice.
I bet you don't, even notice, the pain and loss, in infant circumcision.
American culture is worse, than cruelly awful.
Also Fertilization,
already chromosomes +are like human.
Also NOT mother DNA, not her body, not her choice.
I bet you don't, even notice, the pain and loss, in infant circumcision.
American culture is worse, than cruelly awful.
Lostpoet · M
@Harmony It's not fair, but other animals under stressful situations can naturally abort a pregnancy humans are animals that don't have that ability.
I'm pro life, i want to see many happy healthy babies being born, but im not for demonizing and destroying the mental health of women that have had to make a hard decision.
I'm pro life, i want to see many happy healthy babies being born, but im not for demonizing and destroying the mental health of women that have had to make a hard decision.
strait46 · 46-50, M
@Lostpoet unprepared? the action is the same. the doctor kills the live human fetus and mom is worse than accomplice accessory she hired the hit man to kill ...her own family. to inflict pain on a fetus that feels pain. unprepared doesn't justify that.
but you yankees are too cold hearted about infant pain inflicting circumcision with no medical urgency nor necessity.
you yankees are the cancer of humanity.
but you yankees are too cold hearted about infant pain inflicting circumcision with no medical urgency nor necessity.
you yankees are the cancer of humanity.
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Katie01 · F
Not at all. If anything it should be mandatory for certain kinds of people
Katie01 · F
@SW-User totally agree. A year old max I'd say
strait46 · 46-50, M
@SW-User precisely in french law choice until 14 weeks. but after 14 weeks crime. other countries need to learn from modern and moral france.
NaughtyPickle · M
strait46 · 46-50, M
@NaughtyPickle not topic. murder means killing a human. do you consider yourself chicken to feed yourself to your family?
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
@Harmony Abortion
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
@strait46 You're sick in your head.
ExperienceDLT · M
Bumbles · 51-55, M
No, unless it’s illegal in a particular state.
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@SW-User Libertarianism is about liberty, not State Power, including killing babies in utero. Sorry, Bro.
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fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
Of course it is! But think about this for a minute, if we had "abortion on demand" up until age 18, wouldn't we have better behaved teen-agers?
GerOttman · 61-69, M
Not always, but it is a homicide
Why do you ask?
Muthafukajones · 46-50, M
NO
