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Why is every one so worried about trans women

And seemingly have no concern for trans men?
Talk amongst yoyrselves....
BlueVeins · 22-25
Conservatives overwhelmingly rely on fear to enact their policy agendas, especially fear of harm to white women and children. Transgender men can't easily be spun as a threat to white women or children, so they more-or-less just ignore them. It also doesn't help that there are more transgender women than men (iirc).
CestManan · 46-50, F
@Graylight [quote]Again, I find it extraordinary that so many professional organizations and governmental agencies right on down to the common man are so suddenly preoccupied with the purity and preservation of women's sports, particularly when they've spent the last 50 years not giving a good goddamn and putting their empty wallets behind that empty sentiment. [/quote]

No kidding, it is like suddenly it is a big deal.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@hippyjoe1955 [quote]You read some crackpot theory that men and women are the same thing[/quote]

Awkward when advanced biology is called crackpot theory but I expect nothing less from adults with a biology education of a 9 year old.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@SatanBurger Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
SW-User
I think it's because a non negligible portion of people believe two things at the same time: that trans women are men and that men are threats to women. There doesn't seem to be a similar amount of people who believe that trans men are women and that women are threats to men.
Carla · 61-69, F
@SW-User a physical threat or a threat to what society deems as women/femininity?
SW-User
@Carla Both.
Carla · 61-69, F
@SW-User and yet, how many assaults do you hear about involving trans women attacking other women?
I think many men have an ingrained animosity toward women and the idea of a person born male but in every way is a female, with the exception of male genitalia, is an assault to their delicate sensibilities.
Like how could a man possibly want to be a woman? A WOMAN!
genders or race or ethnicities are realities you are born with... you cant change them.

personally i find a men impersonating an oversexualized cliche of a women on the same level of offending like a white guy wearing black face and thinking that makes him a black person.
@Strawberrry

[quote]personally i find a men impersonating an oversexualized cliche of a women on the same level of offending like a white guy wearing black face and thinking that makes him a black person.[/quote]

So true.
If we lived in a society where women were understood and valued some men wouldn't think being a woman was just about playing dress up and acting like a b!tch. But, we can thank Andy Cohen for perpetuating this stereotype with the Real Housewives franchise.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Strawberrry That's my feeling too, and I hate the cliche. But I really don't know enough about the motivations of trans men to form a concrete opinion.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@SunshineGirl There's not much 'motivation' to speak of. They feel dysphoric and generally unwell when they're forced to present as women, so they present as men instead.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
A man is a man and a woman is a woman and no amount of surgery or pills or indoctrination will ever change that. Sad that our medical establishment is into destroying lives.
@hippyjoe1955 The medical establishment is in the business of profiting from individuals unhappy with their lives ie: boob jobs, lip injections, butt implants, Botox etc. etc. etc. Funny how these services are exceptable because a subset of people want to label these attributes as attractive. The whole thing is vile and disgusting.
summersong · F
Tbh I don’t understand why anyone is worried about trans people at all but I think it’s because femininity is more heavily policed
Johnson212 · 61-69, M
A lot of it comes from sports and the unfairness of what is going on. It is about that swimmer who is setting all the women's swimming records the other women who is loosing it it do not have a dick and do not have that advantage of growing up with testosterone helping the muscles out. There are not trans women breaking all the mens records.
Johnson212 · 61-69, M
@Carla That probably should not happen either but who is going to notice as it will be in a stall.
Carla · 61-69, F
I hate to break the news to you,@Johnson212...but i will lay odds that you wouldnt know if a trans woman was in the bathroom, or a trans man.
The trans woman would also be in a stall. And she would have absolutely no interest in your granddaughter.
Just there to do her business.
And, it is far less safe for her to use the men's room.
Johnson212 · 61-69, M
@Carla I am only concerned about my grand daughters safety not someone who does not know who they are.
Transgender Woman Is Charged With Voyeurism at Target in Idaho
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/15/us/target-transgender-idaho-voyeurism.html
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
You see a lot more transwomen than transmen, you know why that is? Because women don't envy men the way men envy women. Now look at how many men have a fetish for this sort of thing, how many women have you ever known who get gratification dressing up as a man? Take it from me, your friendly neighborhood crossdresser, women have very little desire to be men. So when you meet a transman you can rest assured that they are most likely a real trans person.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Jackaloftheazuresand I think for a lot of 'trans' men dressing and makeup etc are much more sexual fantasies and not really a desire to be the opposite sex. Getting a thrill out of wearing a skirt or panties or .... is getting a thrill. Some then get carried away and later regret it.
Doomflower · 36-40, M
I know this is not the reality but I am not trans and I don't really get it. I used to think I might be but realized I just wanted male privilege so in my mind trans men are women who want to escape the oppression of being female.

And I do believe people. Trans women are real women. But also... as someone AFAB who identifies as such I will never be comfortable with trans women who don't pass. My stupid cis brain sees a guy in a dress trying to take women's spaces for themselves.
2cool4school · 46-50, F
@Doomflower [quote]take women's spaces[/quote] I think I understand what you are saying.
However I think it’s an oversimplification to say that people assigned male at birth have decided that they would have an easier time if they were to spend time, money and energy to “transition” and identify as a woman when women make less in the workplace. And risk of being killed for trans people is much higher too. I also know that very few things in the world are absolutes too.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
I just trust science. Female have 2 X chromosomes. Male have 1 x and 1 Y chromosome.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
Femininity, to men at one point, was something to be controlled dating back to when we fought to win the right to vote, now the concepts that man created is not in control as we are finding out more and more about gender than we ever knew possible.

It's very simple the more one thinks about it. This makes the identities we have made collectively as a society BEFORE we knew about all this, are fragile. Trans women/trans males break that identity that's been carefully crafted and people are just having a very hard time of it.

I said it once before but I'll say it again, the fragile identity is not unlike the identity the narcissist creates and when that's broken, all that is left is pure rage and nothingness because these identities were false identities and this is what happens when something false is created and destroyed.
Carla · 61-69, F
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
Men dressing as women are perceived to threaten the safety of biological women. But I don't know if this fear has any basis in fact.
Graylight · 51-55, F
Same reason they worry about guns in black hands but never in white ones.

GOP - the party of Whatever Works.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Graylight GOP - the party of "I'm Scared of Everything" about sums it up I think.
Torsten · 36-40, M
I am not worried about trans men or women. I dont like trans women going in biological womens sports and I dont like being told I have to call people whatever they wish and be dragged out of reality into make believe.
In saying that though, I know some trans women who are not like that at all. Its the trans activists that make them look bad
Nobody cares about anybody
SW-User
Gender biases
2cool4school · 46-50, F
@SW-User lots of biases flying around here…
They think trans women go through abuse, death threats and gender reassignment surgery so they can get close to women and rape them.
Sorry but that is not how a rapist thinks.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
So if men claiming to women makes them women how does one explain the pregnancis in the women's prison?
2cool4school · 46-50, F
@hippyjoe1955 guessing that it’s the same as anywhere else.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
Because some tranny dude in a dress can beat real women in sports, and rape real women in prison.
CestManan · 46-50, F
Biological women have two things that biological men do not - constant ailing and constant drama.
meJess · F
Trans men don’t seem to be in the news for assaulting women or making new sports records
2cool4school · 46-50, F
🤯 mind blowing 💣
Zonuss · 41-45, M
We are all human.

 
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