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X gender in passport

What age must children be to have an x in their passport?
My son is 10 and i want change his marker from M, Male to X, gender not determined.
are here parents who have experience with this?

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JesseInTX · 51-55, M

Has penis = M
No penis = F
Social media entity owned by Elon = X

Pretty self explanatory

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SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP

@JesseInTX The reason we know biological sex and gender are two different things is because of science, don't use big words if you don't know what they mean.

*Scientifically* pffttttt 😂

SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP

@JesseInTX oh that's cute, you're talking about chromosomes.

https://novonordiskfonden.dk/en/news/more-women-than-expected-are-genetically-men/

Danielle50 · 56-60, FNew

@SatanBurger exactly sex and gender are 2 seperate things

MarineBob · 56-60, M

Actually I am in favor of the parents getting a psych eval

wildbill83 · 41-45, M

@MarineBob red flagged/put on no fly list...

Sam17 · 18-21, M

Wait till he's old enough to make up his own mind

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Sam17 · 18-21, M

@SatanBurger then wait till then

SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP

@Sam17 Yes, that's the point of marking gender neutral down is so we can wait until they decide and then change it to male, female or non binary. I literally just said that

Sam17 · 18-21, M

@SatanBurger he's male

FreeSpirit1 · F

Passports are for Identification not social experiments. The place where you say "marker" is actually sex, and that can not be changed. Just because some countries are insane doesn't mean we have to join in

ElwoodBlues · M

@FreeSpirit1 We have observed genotypes involving XXX, XXY, XYY and X0 (Turner syndrome) sex chromosomes. And we've observed human phenotypes with a range from no functioning sex organs to varying amounts of male & female sex organs on the same individual (these are often called intersex). Genetic mosaicism is where the X and Y chromosomes are expressed differently (from the most common expression) on different parts of the body (these phenotypes are also often described as intersex and sometimes hermaphrodite). These are all observable biological phenomena that either God or Nature brings into the human family, and they don't quite fit into either of your two boxes!

But the real debate is about the most complex sex organ of all, the human brain.

GeniUs · 56-60, M

OK, OK. Some people including the OP are getting really confused here this is not a gender identification thing, this is so he can be identified for what he is as a person at this moment in time and the passport must reflect this. This document is serious it's not about making some nonsense woke statement it's about making sure the right person is allowed to travel across international borders and nothing else.
If you want to make up ID documents where it is stated your child's gender is 'X' carry on but do not try to pass these off as official documents they are not.

ElwoodBlues · M

@GeniUs And if the child has XXY chromosomes? And if the child has partially hermaphroditic sex organs?

zonavar68 · 56-60, M

Umm there are only two genders - male and female - evidenced at birth by whether a person has penis/balls or a vagina - unless there is a 'mental defect' and/or a chromasomal defect.

Humans are born either male or female and that is both their gender and their 'sex'.

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zonavar68 · 56-60, M

@BohemianBabe making them artificial freaks. *flame suit is on* 8-)

BohemianBabe · M

@zonavar68 So you don't take any medicine? You'd never get surgery?
If someone gets a pacemaker, are they now an artificial freak?
I wear glasses, I guess I'm a freak. I mean, I am a freak, but not for this.

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HumanEarth · 56-60

What? Never heard of such a thing? Well I also never had a passport either. When I travel, I travel as a illegal immigrant. I am a animal and I should have the right to travel as such.

To bears and moose need a passport to cross the boarder between Canada and USA, no they don't

Do coyotes and deer need a passport to cross the boarder between Mexico and USA, no they don't

Then why do humans, We are animals to

zonavar68 · 56-60, M

@HumanEarth command and control - nothing more.

HumanEarth · 56-60

You are so right

Underconstruction · F

Wait until HE, your SON , becomes an adult.

JestAJester · 31-35, M

You answered your own question. Your "son" therefore he is male. Problem solved. Saved you a lot of time and money.

wildbill83 · 41-45, M

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dakotaviper · 56-60, M

Are you willing to put your son in danger? Because not every Country in the World is as WOKE as you think they are. Plus many Ports of Call in other Countries whether by Air or by Sea, now employ X-Ray Scanners (over 90%). Because if they see something that seems suspicious, a strip search could happen, and he could be detained for criminal deportation. So, take your chances.

SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP

@dakotaviper I think that doesn't make sense, you might as well say that about LGBT community too, not every country is pro LGBT so you might as well force yourself to try to be straight.

And as far as gender being woke, the Gender vs biological sex has always been around. They only teach about biological sex in school for the sake of simplicity because simpletons. It's not woke, you just weren't taught that in school. Not everything is taught. Like genetics isn't really a subject that's touched on but would you deny genetics? I mean there's a few things you learn but not really.

BohemianBabe · M

There's no age restriction in America.

Mamapolo2016 · F

What does your son want?

Danielle50 · 56-60, FNew

@Mamapolo2016 that isn’t important, what is important in these is freedom for my child! Beeing gender neutral my child can choose what it wants if my child have a masculine period oké Nice wear boys clothes if it have a feminine period nice wear girls clothes it gives so much freedom so as they say here in Germany

Mamapolo2016 · F

@Danielle50 It was important to me to include my child when considering making decisions that will inform her life.

Clearly, you can do what you want.