GOP trying to make gay kids not exist by making a federal don't say gay law.

@Pikachu Agreed.

@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout So you're against sex education I take it? Just tell them to abstain, then when they have underground abortions from no contraceptives because ya know contraceptives are a form of abortions, we can blame it on the left. How's that lol.


It's disgusting that you make trans, gay, lesbian, asexual or other orientations out to be a form of porn. Why is their orientation sexual to you? That's so weird.

@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Daily tranny shows for kids, never heard of it.

@SW-User I hope it's so gay, it makes the anti gays melt.

@SW-User That's all I ask.

@SlightlyBelowAverageJoe Sex is natural but we teach about sex education. Did you want to take a chance on your kid being able to abstain and maybe a 50/50 chance they'll knock some girl up their own age because they weren't taught about those things?

Ignorance isn't bliss, same thing with sexual identity. Gay kids may wonder if they are different, it's probably a good thing they are taught they are not different. Unless you're a homophobe, then maybe it's bad depending on perception.

@SlightlyBelowAverageJoe biology is natural, botany is natural. Should we not teach those?

@SlightlyBelowAverageJoe


Don't you think it would be good for a gay kid to know that being gay is a thing instead of just feeling like a freak when those feelings arise?

@ronisme1 Well yes I agree.

@ronisme1 I've never actually had anyone take issue with straightness. There have been jokes, yes. But no actual issue. "Straight people being under attack" is one of those things that happens so rarely as to not really be a thing. There are plenty of both sides issues but this isn't really one of them.

@Jackaloftheazuresand There's religiously conservative families who aren't physically abusive but at the same time if you come out you run the risk of being homeless because they believe being gay is a "choice." There are just people who also believe in things like QAnon anti gay conspiracy theories and that if the kid was to come out gay, they'd freak out but may not physically harm their child otherwise. There's also just low IQ parents and also, parents who had their children young and whose brains stopped growing at a certain age so physically they may be 40 but mentally they could be 16.

I agree with you that "coming out won't stop abuse," that it didn't do you any good to come out and keeping it secret probably protected you. I do think it's wrong of your father to treat you that way which is my opinion but I also believe that just because being closeted hasn't hurt you because you are that way doesn't mean everyone else is. There would be no such thing as internalized homophobia if it didn't hurt someone along the way.

It's like the age old example of an anti gay politician who makes laws to oppress gay people but then is caught hiring gay hookers or even worse, killed one of them. One half of them is anti gay and the other half is gay, this creates sort of a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde experience. This is an over exaggerated but true example of internalized homophobia but other kids can develop trauma that doesn't come out as healthy from not being allowed to ask questions or know who they are.

If we as adults are supposed to protect children from trauma, why would we make laws that further trauma then? Even if it doesn't stop abuse from home, you should still be allowed to explore who you are as a person because one day, you won't have your family and then what's left with the feelings of shame or guilt? Teachers should be allowed to talk to children who are questioning because of it, even if it is a minority.

With that said, there's multiple issues with the GOP doing what they're doing but the main issue is that the GOP's attitudes towards sexual orientation doesn't just stop with making laws against questioning children. This same attitude is found in countries like Poland where there's "no-gay zones" and where gay travelers had to make an underground map of safe areas to stroll through in Poland.

The first step of any oppression is to force people into nonexistence, the overall attitude is what I don't like because I see parallels with other countries. There's so many similarities, countries like Poland and America even have the same vocabulary and that's concerning.

@SatanBurger Verbal and emotional abuse may be discussed as well.

I'd say at that point the ball will be in the victim's court. I'm no stranger to the self loathing but it's up to themselves what they do with it. When we protect children we protect them from the influence of others. Feeling isolated because there is no authority on an identity is a self inflicted trauma and frankly, I'm not convinced such a child can even exist. In that way it's not a trauma that can be fixed from the outside There's so many negative influences that I think entirely accounts for any internalized hatred anyway. It wasn't the void that made them that way, it was the jerks who were also speaking where they should be silent. I want something to be done to combat that and not by taking up the opposing weapons to balance it out, because there is a tendency to overcorrect. Maybe this is what my parents did to get me, nobody should be talking to children about their sexuality. And I know those parents and guardians and whatever else will continue being that shouting cruel voice but I think we already have the best solution we are going to get on that and that goes back to the teacher's ability to still be someone the child can come to from a neutral approach and who the child can tell how they are being mistreated.

A lot of things will be a bridge too far. I won't let it go beyond that be assured.

@Jackaloftheazuresand I agree with a lot of things you say but I just think sexuality is apart of growing up. The gop is acting like this is being taught all the time or it's like some brainwashing and that's part of the problem, it isn't. They just want to erase and act like it doesn't happen which is similar to gaslighting or stonewalling.

@ViciDraco I wouldn't doubt it, they already proved it with removing Rosa Parks from school libraries, I guess they got a problem with black people riding in front of the bus and writing about it. They called it "critical race theory" but I don't doubt they'll do something like that next and using some thinly veiled racist excuse as to why.