If you were practicing criminal law…
Would you prefer being in the position of prosecuting the accused, or defending them ?
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ElwoodBlues · M
I know a number of people who passed the bar, worked for a while as lawyers, and voluntarily left the profession to do something more rewarding (which, to be fair, often involved their legal knowledge to some extent).
I know a lawyer who specializes in labor law; most of his clients are "working stiffs" and he loves it. He also loves the battleground and intellectual combat of the courtroom.
And we have a mutual friend who is a former big city prosecutor who would often handle high visibility white collar crimes. Former, because he is now in private practice; there are law firms who really value having a person on staff who can think like a prosecutor and advise clients on how a prosecutor would likely approach their situation.
Personally, for myself, I wouldn't want to pursue law, but if I had to, it wouldn't be as a prosecutor.
I know a lawyer who specializes in labor law; most of his clients are "working stiffs" and he loves it. He also loves the battleground and intellectual combat of the courtroom.
And we have a mutual friend who is a former big city prosecutor who would often handle high visibility white collar crimes. Former, because he is now in private practice; there are law firms who really value having a person on staff who can think like a prosecutor and advise clients on how a prosecutor would likely approach their situation.
Personally, for myself, I wouldn't want to pursue law, but if I had to, it wouldn't be as a prosecutor.
bijouxbroussard · F
@ElwoodBlues I recently found out that one of my former classmates was the original judge on the Jared Fogle (Subway) trial. I can’t even imagine what having to sift through [b]that[/b] evidence was like. 🤢
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@bijouxbroussard Oh my goodness. I watched that documentary about him. What a sick man. Couldn’t even imagine being that judge.
Pfuzylogic · M
ImpeccablyImperfect · 51-55, F
Beatbox34 · 31-35, M
Just a general perspective.
From someone who works there. I've always observed nobody actually gives a damn about prosecuting or defending. They just seem to chase money. The judges are in the pockets as well. It's a system that is rigged, at least in India. I can't speak for elsewhere. But the judges are appointed by the lawyers and they favour them.
From someone who works there. I've always observed nobody actually gives a damn about prosecuting or defending. They just seem to chase money. The judges are in the pockets as well. It's a system that is rigged, at least in India. I can't speak for elsewhere. But the judges are appointed by the lawyers and they favour them.
Beatbox34 · 31-35, M
@bijouxbroussard Its true that knowledge is scary.
I see lawyers ruthlessly eating away their clients promising a false hope. But it's just money they crave for. When it comes to judges, I see them favouring them because how could they not?
I'm aware of the medical system in the states. It's just how the Pharma controls it all. You can't go to doctor A if your insurance denies it. It's really messed up how money rules it all.
I see lawyers ruthlessly eating away their clients promising a false hope. But it's just money they crave for. When it comes to judges, I see them favouring them because how could they not?
I'm aware of the medical system in the states. It's just how the Pharma controls it all. You can't go to doctor A if your insurance denies it. It's really messed up how money rules it all.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
thewindupbirdchronicles · 46-50, M
My nephew wants to become a defence lawyer. He's very sensitive. I also know, from his sensitivities, a part of him is a defence lawyer. He has felt sensitive for many years, I can't imagine him choosing not to be there for people wrongfully accused. I don't know his reasons entirely, and this world loves to assume guilt from accusation. I feel he's felt many accusations. I do wonder how he didn't feel accepted at one times, plays in?
All that said, I trust him, while I know this is about more than IQ, I respect his EQ, and scoring 98% in philosophy gives hope.
All that said, I trust him, while I know this is about more than IQ, I respect his EQ, and scoring 98% in philosophy gives hope.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
Wow. This is such a hard question to answer.
I believe without exception or qualification that every defendant (regardless of guilt or innocence) has the right to a zealous defense and that we need to protect the system unethical prosecutors.
So defense attorney, right??
But you know me well enough from our past conversations to know that I'm a law and order person. I believe in the rule of law and the need for standards in civil society.
So prosecutor then??
Ugh... Idk. 😔
I believe without exception or qualification that every defendant (regardless of guilt or innocence) has the right to a zealous defense and that we need to protect the system unethical prosecutors.
So defense attorney, right??
But you know me well enough from our past conversations to know that I'm a law and order person. I believe in the rule of law and the need for standards in civil society.
So prosecutor then??
Ugh... Idk. 😔
bijouxbroussard · F
@sarabee1995 I totally understand.
ABCDEF7 · M
Your objective as a lawyer should to uncover the truth by way of legal discussion under the court of law. Which side you are doesn't matter, if your intention is to examine everything to reach the truth.
I would not frame false acquisitions if I were a prosecutor, nor I will develop false evidences to protect a criminal.
I would not frame false acquisitions if I were a prosecutor, nor I will develop false evidences to protect a criminal.
bijouxbroussard · F
@ABCDEF7 That’s the purest definition of advocacy, either for the state or the individual. And while nobody [b]admits[/b] to seeking false evidence to acquit or convict those accused, it is an unfortunate truth (in the U.S.) that the outcome has as much to do with the money spent on defense as it does the facts of the case.
The prosecution generally has unlimited resources.
The prosecution generally has unlimited resources.
bookerdana · M
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Sidewinder · 36-40, M
bijouxbroussard · F
@Sidewinder Wouldn’t it be awesome if trials regularly concluded as they did on Perry Mason—with the guilty party breaking down and confessing on the stand ?
Sidewinder · 36-40, M
@bijouxbroussard Ideally speaking, It would make the jobs of the courtroom personnel a whole lot easier.
Subsumedpat · 36-40, M
Sidewinder · 36-40, M
@Subsumedpat In my sphere of experience, nobody is completely innocent.
We've all done something at one point or another that we are ashamed of.
We've all done something at one point or another that we are ashamed of.
bijouxbroussard · F
@Sidewinder Innocent of the [b]crime[/b] would be key, though. ☺️
bijouxbroussard · F
@Degbeme [i]The Innocence Project [/i] has reviewed trials of U.S. defendants and discovered evidence missed by previous defense counsel that has freed people, sometimes after decades of incarceration.
It has also discovered that innocent people have been executed, often those who could not afford a competent defense. It’s the [b]only[/b] reason I’m against the death penalty.
I do believe people commit crimes for which they [b]should[/b] forfeit the right to continue drawing breath.
Unfortunately, in the U.S. the wealthy can escape that penalty regardless of their crime—and that’s unlikely to change, [b]ever[/b].
It has also discovered that innocent people have been executed, often those who could not afford a competent defense. It’s the [b]only[/b] reason I’m against the death penalty.
I do believe people commit crimes for which they [b]should[/b] forfeit the right to continue drawing breath.
Unfortunately, in the U.S. the wealthy can escape that penalty regardless of their crime—and that’s unlikely to change, [b]ever[/b].
GlitterEater · 36-40, F
MellyMel22 · F
JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F
I have thought about this and all I know is I would not be a public defender or prosecution because I could neither attempt to prosecute someone I believe to be innocent or defend someone I believe to be guilty. I would have to have the ability to remove myself from the case.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
I really hate retributive justice, but prosecution. Here's why:
Before moving to computers my strongest subject was actually good. I could've gone to law school. My scores were great for criminal law. Small problem - if I KNEW someone was a rapist or something, I wouldn't defend them. I'd be the poorest lawyer in criminal justice.
Before moving to computers my strongest subject was actually good. I could've gone to law school. My scores were great for criminal law. Small problem - if I KNEW someone was a rapist or something, I wouldn't defend them. I'd be the poorest lawyer in criminal justice.
Sidewinder · 36-40, M
@basilfawlty89 In my teenage years, I had thoughts of "retributive justice" on account of a few people giving me a hard time over some personal problems I had at the time.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
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