Brainwashed into thinking they are victims. If they want to see some real victims, they should contact the 17,000 men drafted into and killed in the Vietnam War. Part of their male privilege. Oh, wait - they're dead
Are you familiar with the concept of divide and conquer?
At any rate
Women are now leading in the military industrial complex, holding top positions in the largest weapons companies and defense and intelligence agencies in the US. The point is people in power tend to exercise that power.
They (we!) don't want to be society's stereotype or 'pigeonhole' of women. They don't want to just be wives or mothers or carers. That's not the same as wanting to be a man. It's wanting to have what a man is 'allowed' or 'accepted' to have with no judgement or scrutiny.
What is "a woman " in this scenario??? June Cleaver,"the little woman"💀
Most women I know want equality in pay and opportunity...simple easy definition...and they most definitely want to be a woman...why would anyone assume otherwise?
@bookerdana that is good. I am not against at all. Gosh I have too much fire in me to stay home with kids but women should have a choice. What you are talking about is the old style of feminism which was long overdue not the crazy biatches of today " the future is female" placard.
Those two things aren’t incompatible. You can absolutely want both. The women that fought for the right to vote… were very much woman, and very much feminists.
Feminism has told women to push career, career, career and wait until their late 30s or even 40s to start a family. Of course, biology still says the best time for women to have children is their 20s.
@revenant Many women have been duped into putting off pairing up for life until well past their prime fertility years, when they then have to compete with more fertile, more attractive 20somethings for the most-viable men. Nice move, feminism.
@graphite yes that is true ! but then I do not think all women want children. I think we are all composed of energies : masculine and feminine and we have each at different degrees.
@revenant A lot that do want children believe the feminist lie that it can happen any old time. While some who wait until 35+ won't have a problem with fertility, others have to resort to egg retrieval, IVF, etc - expensive, invasive procedures with low success rates. Or surrogacy - have someone else carry the baby. Anyway, waiting that long and being successful still means dealing with teenagers and 20somethings possibly into your 60s when you should otherwise be sitting poolside. Forget that resort vacation - college tuition is due.
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feminists tend to be confused people in general with not much going for themselves. I think it’s safe to say the living conditions for people who complain so much are far better in the United States than probably anywhere else.
Feminist movement was co-opted imo. Masculinity and femininity compliment each other. But its seems the current battle for feminists is to be more like men and get equal standing in the cult of work......creating homogenous grateful slaves
They've been indoctrinated with a victim complex and mistake any traditional relationship concept for oppression. What's weird is how many young women buy into that ideology and copy it without seemingly questioning any aspect of it.
Feminism hasn't made women happier. Who'd have thought it? https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/may/18/womens-rights-happiness-wellbeing-gender-gap
@revenant No, it just doesn't make sense in any way I look at it. If they are feminists they want certain rights for women and want to be identified as women. I'd understand if you said some women don't want to be women. That's totally true. Or if you asked why feminists don't want to adopt the stereotypical ideas about how women are supposed to behave, I would understand that too.
@revenant I don't, really. In fact I didn't mention what North America thinks, I wasn't even thinking about North America when I answered this question. I haven't even been there.
@revenant Then the opposition to this movement seems fair.
I don't know if any feminist really don't want to be a women, only if they are pessimist about their movement. If it is really a case then they themselves is disrespecting the womanhood, they should be proud of themselves for being a woman.
I think of myself as "feminist Lite"...and I am definitely a woman. But I get really riled up when I am doing family trees and there is NO record, anywhere, of the wife's maiden name. If those MEN who recorded the marriage and who ignored her family on her tombstone were still alive, I would make sure they had their a$$es kicked...but good!
@4meAndyou yes ditto for me. I could never be a traditionalist woman either. That is weird not having a maiden name recorded ! I had never heard of that !
@revenant It's a real thing. The men who recorded their marriages back in the early 1800:'s would write the woman's name as though she was already married: ie MRS Jane Smith. 50 to 100 years later, they would write Jane Merriwether or whatever her maiden name WAS.