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Why don't feminists want to be women ?

graphite · 61-69, M
Brainwashed into thinking they are victims. If they want to see some real victims, they should contact the 17,000 men drafted into and killed in the Vietnam War. Part of their male privilege. Oh, wait - they're dead
Alison · 18-21, F
@SW-User i dont care about dudes problems especially the ones they create.
They are problem solvers let them solve it.

I care when women are involved
SW-User
@Alison [quote]I don't care about dudes problems [/quote]

[quote]I care when women are involved [/quote]

Are you familiar with the concept of divide and conquer?

At any rate

Women are now leading in the military industrial complex, holding top positions in the largest weapons companies and defense and intelligence agencies in the US. The point is people in power tend to exercise that power.
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
@graphite hundreds of miles off Argentina with a population who did not want to be Argentinian.
Just seem like it’s narcissistic ppl wanting to blame everyone else for their own insecurities..

revenant · F
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout ahah I would give you a whole restaurant's kitchen !
helenS · 36-40, F
Why do you ask such an insulting question?? 😕
Disappointed: helenS
revenant · F
@helenS lol🤣 have a biscuit 🍪
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@helenS didn't seem that insulting
helsbels · 26-30, F
They (we!) don't want to be society's stereotype or 'pigeonhole' of women. They don't want to just be wives or mothers or carers. That's not the same as wanting to be a man. It's wanting to have what a man is 'allowed' or 'accepted' to have with no judgement or scrutiny.
revenant · F
@helsbels Fair enough
@helsbels 💯
gol979 · 41-45, M
Feminist movement was co-opted imo. Masculinity and femininity compliment each other. But its seems the current battle for feminists is to be more like men and get equal standing in the cult of work......creating homogenous grateful slaves
@gol979 Oh no, feminists want women to have the same standing as men!
revenant · F
@gol979 yes they are fighting "for" that patriarchy they claim to hate if you think about it
iamelijah · 26-30, M
Maybe they are getting tired being treated like inferior and being mansplaining for their whole life.
iamelijah · 26-30, M
@revenant I was thinking the same thing. Their demands got too much making them (feminists) now like a joke.

East is trying to do the same thing. We tried to gain equality but due to Western feminist new wave, it got backlashed.
revenant · F
@iamelijah contagious it seems
@iamelijah @revenant I wish they understood that they actually hurt the movement by giving people (even other woman) a reason to hate it. It’s sad.
Those two things aren’t incompatible. You can absolutely want both. The women that fought for the right to vote… were very much woman, and very much feminists.
@revenant but you do bring up a fair point.
revenant · F
@DarkHeaven Thank you but unfortunately nowadays small strident group want power and they get it.
@revenant sometimes. I doubt the women in the women’s shelter I donate to feel that. There’s still a lot of work to be done. Be safe and be well. 🦋
SW-User
feminists tend to be confused people in general with not much going for themselves. I think it’s safe to say the living conditions for people who complain so much are far better in the United States than probably anywhere else.
graphite · 61-69, M
Feminism has told women to push career, career, career and wait until their late 30s or even 40s to start a family. Of course, biology still says the best time for women to have children is their 20s.
graphite · 61-69, M
@revenant Many women have been duped into putting off pairing up for life until well past their prime fertility years, when they then have to compete with more fertile, more attractive 20somethings for the most-viable men. Nice move, feminism.
revenant · F
@graphite yes that is true ! but then I do not think all women want children. I think we are all composed of energies : masculine and feminine and we have each at different degrees.
graphite · 61-69, M
@revenant A lot that do want children believe the feminist lie that it can happen any old time. While some who wait until 35+ won't have a problem with fertility, others have to resort to egg retrieval, IVF, etc - expensive, invasive procedures with low success rates. Or surrogacy - have someone else carry the baby. Anyway, waiting that long and being successful still means dealing with teenagers and 20somethings possibly into your 60s when you should otherwise be sitting poolside. Forget that resort vacation - college tuition is due.
bookerdana · M
What is "a woman " in this scenario??? June Cleaver,"the little woman"💀

Most women I know want equality in pay and opportunity...simple easy definition...and they most definitely want to be a woman...why would anyone[b] assume [/b]otherwise?
revenant · F
@bookerdana yes and that was a good thing.
bookerdana · M
@revenant no they can even play golf on mens courses...its long overdue and not enough
revenant · F
@bookerdana that is good. I am not against at all. Gosh I have too much fire in me to stay home with kids but women should have a choice. What you are talking about is the old style of feminism which was long overdue not the crazy biatches of today " the future is female" placard.
TheGreatLeveler · 31-35, M
They've been indoctrinated with a victim complex and mistake any traditional relationship concept for oppression. What's weird is how many young women buy into that ideology and copy it without seemingly questioning any aspect of it.
graphite · 61-69, M
Feminism hasn't made women happier. Who'd have thought it?
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/may/18/womens-rights-happiness-wellbeing-gender-gap
Who said they don’t want to?
revenant · F
@TurtleEclipseOfTheHeart I will show you my PHd in sociology and BS..Best Science..🙂
@revenant You can just flush it down the toilet because it’s already sh!t
revenant · F
@TurtleEclipseOfTheHeart What...you do not like women ?
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Funlov · M
Here’s a better one why do guys want to be girls when they are boys and never be girls ever
4meAndyou · F
I think of myself as "feminist Lite"...and I am definitely a woman. But I get really riled up when I am doing family trees and there is NO record, anywhere, of the wife's maiden name. If those MEN who recorded the marriage and who ignored her family on her tombstone were still alive, I would make sure they had their a$$es kicked...but good!
revenant · F
@4meAndyou yes ditto for me. I could never be a traditionalist woman either. That is weird not having a maiden name recorded ! I had never heard of that !
4meAndyou · F
@revenant It's a real thing. The men who recorded their marriages back in the early 1800:'s would write the woman's name as though she was already married: ie MRS Jane Smith. 50 to 100 years later, they would write Jane Merriwether or whatever her maiden name WAS.
Viper · M
Define women
revenant · F
@CrazyMusicLover Yeah I guess it is very confusing in this era of " non binary" stuff..🙂
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
@revenant No, it just doesn't make sense in any way I look at it. If they are feminists they want certain rights for women and want to be identified as women.
I'd understand if you said some women don't want to be women. That's totally true. Or if you asked why feminists don't want to adopt the stereotypical ideas about how women are supposed to behave, I would understand that too.
revenant · F
@CrazyMusicLover but where is the fun if I have to explain ?
Torsten · 36-40, M
they dont even know what a woman is anymore. They are all very brainwashed and confused.
revenant · F
@Torsten yes they want women to be filled with male energy and reject female energy which is a paradox.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@revenant and they want men to be filled with female energy
HairbrushDiva · 31-35, F
Feminism has somehow become distorted, but not where I live.
revenant · F
@HairbrushDiva ahah I am sure there are loads of countries who could not care less what North America thinks.
HairbrushDiva · 31-35, F
@revenant I don't, really. In fact I didn't mention what North America thinks, I wasn't even thinking about North America when I answered this question. I haven't even been there.
Fishy · F
Some do, but they're called terfs these days 🤔
MasterLee · 56-60, M
Good question
revenant · F
@MasterLee thank you.
FloorGenAdm · 51-55, M
They're gay?
@FloorGenAdm [image]
val70 · 51-55
🧐 You mean one of the first, second or third wave? Jordan Peterson doesn't want to be a woman, that I do know
revenant · F
@val70 third wave
val70 · 51-55
@revenant Gosh, those are bad apples. Don't mind those. I like my Germaines. They're also much juicier
What is your definition of feminist and what is your definition of woman??
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Soossie i think you probably don't know revenant well.
@samueltyler2

No I don’t much … can you please tell me why??
Wyattinnc · 56-60, M
That question makes zero sense.
revenant · F
Rainandforest · 22-25, F
Not sure about that lol
ABCDEF7 · M
I don't understand the logic behind the movement, if it is not about equality.
ABCDEF7 · M
@revenant Then the opposition to this movement seems fair.

I don't know if any feminist really don't want to be a women, only if they are pessimist about their movement. If it is really a case then they themselves is disrespecting the womanhood, they should be proud of themselves for being a woman.
revenant · F
@ABCDEF7 yes the situation in India might be different.
ABCDEF7 · M
@revenant It seems to be more of foreign(western) concept here. But few newer incidents has tried to popularize the concept.
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Adrift · 61-69, F
They want to be who they are and not someone else's definition of what a woman should be.
MartinTheFirst · 22-25, M
youre not asking the right question
revenant · F
@MartinTheFirst shall I get a crystal ball ?
helsbels · 26-30, F
@revenant Why are women still second class and fighting to be seen as credible, capable and not just made for stereotypical roles?
revenant · F
@helsbels what do 3rd wave feminists want really
Elanor · F
Right ? Lol good f’cking question 😻😹
candycane · 31-35, F
They act like dicks
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revenant · F
@RogueLoner menner than men

 
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