Do you think it's wrong to boil lobster or Crabs alive for human consumption ?

@Fukfacewillie I have been vegan for 17 years and love it--my health has never been this good and I feel morally more comfortable. I have told many people on here that I am vegan.

@Docdon23 And a keen sense of irony!

@Docdon23 I salute you

@SW-User he doesn't insist upon it. Mankind does it because oof his nature. God is not responsible for the behavior of Putin or Stalin or Hitler. We have free will and we will destroy the Earth of our own will

@Nexus Who granted us free will, as you suggest? Did He not know the eventual outcome of His decision?

@SW-User yes. He din't grant anything. He just created the Cosmos. Humans will destroy itself of a physical existence. SOme will find a spiritual existence but not all. The one's who find immortality with exist on a new plane. Not a place but a plane of existence. That's my belief.

@RobinPhoenix good for you

@Nexus Good for the animals... one more person for whom they don't have to die a horrible death.

@RobinPhoenix agreed

@Nexus I'd never chosen to eat a lobster before that, anyway. Not sure why that one night forced me to face something I'd always felt conflicted about, but it did.

@Piper you have become conscientious, which is good

@Nexus I'd been very conscientious about wanting to help as opposed to harming animals, though, long before that one evening in 1985 or 6.

@Nexus Yes, it is, that is how I responded. The facts about the lobsters or crabs, if you put them in water and gradually raise the temperature, they allegedly, don't suffer as much, if at all. supposedly the gradual raising of temperature interferes with the way their bodies sense heat/pain. At times i thought about being a vegetarian, evolution has favored humans being omnivors, so being a strict vegetarian is really difficult, not just psychologically, but physically as well.

@samueltyler2 Possibly they don't suffer as much, but the possibility is that they do. Why Not kill them before boiling ? Seems more humane

@Nexus You still are killing them though. I took a course in invertebrate anatomy, once we studied the lobsters, they were put into an autoclave, they died virtually instantly from the heat and pressure. But, we still killed them.

@Nexus Ok I will not answer any more loaded questions!!! Especially since you neglect to say WHY you think it is wrong

@scrood That's okay. Your opinion is a valid as the next. I never qualify my questions . I just accept what other's think and if they require a reponse , I respond

@Chattermanuk Good on ya , meateater

@Nexus oooh yum. When is my date with the demons

@BigImo tonight

@Nexus can't wait. Do I have to wear anything

@Henal I totally agree

@MoonlightLullaby I agree

@ElRengo I so agree with you

@SW-User agreed

@Nexus cruelty seems to be a human condition we all have to do our best to overcome. 😔

@ineedadrink of course , that's not true. They take a long time to die

@ineedadrink I've seen them getting cooked and rest assured I wouldn't define what I saw, or actually heard, "instantaneous"

@SW-User not always and not everywhere, unfortunately

@Elessar that's not true about the empty shell

@SW-User being invertebrates they dont have skulls

@MarmeeMarch cruel world

@bijouxbroussard Good for you, I salute you

@MalteseFalconPunch I 'm talking about the one's who don't kill the creature before boiling

@MalteseFalconPunch I agree

@4meAndyou Going head first into water never kills anything. They try to get out if there is a lid on the Pot. Whoever told you that is lieing to you

@Nexus Go jump into the water yourself. I've COOKED more lobsters in my life than you will ever know, and if you freeze them before putting them in the pot they die without thrashing. Now STHU. DONE with you.

@4meAndyou In that case i must have died hundreds of times by jumping into swimming pools. Try list to what you just said

@Fukfacewillie but it still happens

@smiler2012 killing them first would be more humane

@DeluxedEdition I agree 100%

@SW-User you are so cruel

@Darksideinthenight2 so you think because we've being doing it for a long time that's it okay to keep doing it ?