Ynotisay · M
So...the "it's cold where I am" defense, huh? Out of curiosity. Do you TRULY believe that climate scientists around the world, with data and highly sensitive instruments, are LYING that this is the hottest it's been on record? If so...why? What's in for a scientist who has one job and that's to determine and disseminate factual information? They'd be doing the same thing irrespective of the weather.
Maybe it's the global part that's tripping you up. I don't know. But I do I know I'll never, ever, ever understand why people choose their feeeeeelings and beliefs over the facts. It's just so nonsensical to me.
Maybe it's the global part that's tripping you up. I don't know. But I do I know I'll never, ever, ever understand why people choose their feeeeeelings and beliefs over the facts. It's just so nonsensical to me.
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@Ynotisay Firstly, sunspot activity governs our weather, and though there are patterns, their cycles are unpredictable.
Secondly, the sun is not a uniform star.
Thirdly in the seventies it was thought we were moving to the next ice age.
But my initial statement was its wet and cold in England this summer. It was not a statement on the effects of global warming by reflection of water vapour in the atmosphere, methane or carbon dioxide.
Secondly, the sun is not a uniform star.
Thirdly in the seventies it was thought we were moving to the next ice age.
But my initial statement was its wet and cold in England this summer. It was not a statement on the effects of global warming by reflection of water vapour in the atmosphere, methane or carbon dioxide.
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Ynotisay · M
@SW-User Duuuuude. Stop. Please. Stop.
OldBrit · 61-69, M
Globally it is the hottest ever, just not here currently. That's the difference we all learnt between climate and weather in high school.

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@OldBrit And the British newspapers gave the air temperatures in Greece instead of land temperatures, upping them by two.
OldBrit · 61-69, M
@SW-User the measurement is I believe highest ambient temperature then averaged globally. That's the record that was broken in July.
Then of course last week the average global sea temperature was the highest ever recorded and in August which is the one we probably should be most worried about.
Then of course last week the average global sea temperature was the highest ever recorded and in August which is the one we probably should be most worried about.
beermeplease · M
....meanwhile it's been one of the driest/hottest summers here on the west coast of canada and we're breaking records with forest fires

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@beermeplease to what extent were the fires set off by arsonists? They were in Greece.
beermeplease · M
@SW-User the fires in eastern canada were set off by arsonists. ours not so much. usually lightning and idiots throwing out their cigarette butts out the window.
Ynotisay · M
@SW-User Someone clearly doesn't live around wildfires.
Ferric67 · M
I'm in New York and it's been a very mild summer where I live
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Wrong. Right.
English Summers are not "usually" cold and wet.
We had the hottest June but followed by an unusually cool, wet and windy July and so far, August - but August is often changeable.
English Summers are not "usually" cold and wet.
We had the hottest June but followed by an unusually cool, wet and windy July and so far, August - but August is often changeable.

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@ArishMell In England if it rains on St Swithin day, it rains for the next forty days. Folklore from 800AD. It was actually dry this year on 15th July.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@SW-User Yes - I know the old folk-tale but didn't know when it originated. Nor why. Perhaps they had an unusually wet Summer that year!
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
Right now maybe it's as usual but don't forget the heatwave during June raised the average temperature by a lot, so I guess that's why they're saying it was the hottest summer.

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@HannibalAteMeOut Not near me. The coast was cool.
SubtropicalSharlana · 51-55, F
That’s funny. I live in south Texas and it is scorchingly hot and humid! England sounds really kind of nice in comparison.

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@SubtropicalSharlana With a winter pullover on and a brolli
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@SubtropicalSharlana It is, but England is on the same latitude as Newfoundland!
Our climate is Temperate Maritime, but this also makes the weather changeable. We do have much more sun than rain in Summer, with mean temperatures in the upper-60s / lower-70s F; and often very settled early-Autumn.
Though over recent years the seasons have become rather blurred, with more cooler weather in Summer, and milder Winters leading to early Spring weather.
Our climate is Temperate Maritime, but this also makes the weather changeable. We do have much more sun than rain in Summer, with mean temperatures in the upper-60s / lower-70s F; and often very settled early-Autumn.
Though over recent years the seasons have become rather blurred, with more cooler weather in Summer, and milder Winters leading to early Spring weather.
nacnud · 36-40, M
The rest of Europe would say otherwise.

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@nacnud Blink, summer has arrived today.
gol979 · 41-45, M
BBC July: "fish are 'boiling' in british rivers".
We are entering peak clown world.
We are entering peak clown world.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@gol979 All right,so you despise the BBC and want to destroy it for reporting fairly what politicians say - and its journalists do press them for answers but most politicians are good at dodging awkward questions - or merely for reporting truths and views you want suppressed for not conforming to your opinions; but you have no sensible constructive alternative proposals.
I do not believe lies and I listen carefully to what the interviewees from different sides say, to try to determine which side is truthful or at least the more accurate. And by "sides" I mean those taken by the interviewed politicians; not the interviewers and analysts trying to get at the truth behind the politicians' "spin".
Where are you writing from, or for whom? Moscow? Peking? Fox News? Qanon?
I do not believe lies and I listen carefully to what the interviewees from different sides say, to try to determine which side is truthful or at least the more accurate. And by "sides" I mean those taken by the interviewed politicians; not the interviewers and analysts trying to get at the truth behind the politicians' "spin".
Where are you writing from, or for whom? Moscow? Peking? Fox News? Qanon?
gol979 · 41-45, M
@ArishMell you will never say "i listen to lies"......you just believe them. Pretty much all msm reporters are nothing of the sort, they are repeaters.
And there we go, because i have a different opinion to you i must be russian or a red statist yank.
Anyway, enjoy your day and dont forget to cancel that licence
And there we go, because i have a different opinion to you i must be russian or a red statist yank.
Anyway, enjoy your day and dont forget to cancel that licence
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@gol979 I listen to, and read, both sides presented by the interviewees.
I listen to independent analysts and investigative work for background details that help explain what is going on.
I do not wildly accuse people of being "liars" unless they clearly are - usually statements issued by totalitarian states. I also ask myself why a politician might by trying to evade awkward questions, not by barefaced lies but by simple avoidance.
I am also well aware of a form of unwitting bias that does frustrate journalists, when some organisation accused of failure in some way is invited to give it side of the matter but has "no-one available for comment" or simply refuses. Sometimes the reporters have to admit it has "issued a statement" that carefully dodges responsibility and is about as meaningless as those "mission statements" once popular in big, especially American-owned, companies.
I have no idea what is a "red statist yank" - anyway whatever side you actually do take I am neither "red" (i.e. Communist) politically, nor "yank" (i.e. American) as native or resident - though if I were either or both of those I might be anti-British.
I did not accuse you of being a Russian.
Oh, and I have no television nor do I use my PC as a television, so I do not need a licence. I gain almost all of my news, information and entertainment from the BBC radio services, plus some quoted by my ISP (BT) from the daily national papers whose political flavours I do account for, and a small amount via my local newspaper.
An SW PM correspondent living the the USA sometimes points me to articles of interest published by MSN and others. As far as I can determine, MSN is politically neutral in reporting from abroad at least (I don't know how it scores on reporting fairly the USA's difficult internal politics), and it does state when an article is an opinion essay rather than direct observations or deep analysis.
In the UK, both the BBC and ITV are under strict impartiality rules that do not apply to the newspapers, and a test of impartiality is whether they report both sides of contentious matters. They do - complaints to the opposite are investigated independently, and upheld or rejected as appropriate!
I listen to independent analysts and investigative work for background details that help explain what is going on.
I do not wildly accuse people of being "liars" unless they clearly are - usually statements issued by totalitarian states. I also ask myself why a politician might by trying to evade awkward questions, not by barefaced lies but by simple avoidance.
I am also well aware of a form of unwitting bias that does frustrate journalists, when some organisation accused of failure in some way is invited to give it side of the matter but has "no-one available for comment" or simply refuses. Sometimes the reporters have to admit it has "issued a statement" that carefully dodges responsibility and is about as meaningless as those "mission statements" once popular in big, especially American-owned, companies.
I have no idea what is a "red statist yank" - anyway whatever side you actually do take I am neither "red" (i.e. Communist) politically, nor "yank" (i.e. American) as native or resident - though if I were either or both of those I might be anti-British.
I did not accuse you of being a Russian.
Oh, and I have no television nor do I use my PC as a television, so I do not need a licence. I gain almost all of my news, information and entertainment from the BBC radio services, plus some quoted by my ISP (BT) from the daily national papers whose political flavours I do account for, and a small amount via my local newspaper.
An SW PM correspondent living the the USA sometimes points me to articles of interest published by MSN and others. As far as I can determine, MSN is politically neutral in reporting from abroad at least (I don't know how it scores on reporting fairly the USA's difficult internal politics), and it does state when an article is an opinion essay rather than direct observations or deep analysis.
In the UK, both the BBC and ITV are under strict impartiality rules that do not apply to the newspapers, and a test of impartiality is whether they report both sides of contentious matters. They do - complaints to the opposite are investigated independently, and upheld or rejected as appropriate!
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
Yes, you are callous and uncaring, you have no conscience.
ImperialAerosolKidFromEP · 51-55, M
Heat tends to drive precipitation, but not everywhere in the world

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@ImperialAerosolKidFromEP Over England
Renaci · 36-40
Yep it is in the mind. Yours.