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getting it wrong carrot and the stck

it does NOT mean, reward,, or punishment
as in do right get the carrot

it is more subtle
it means a reward offered But never delivered
a deliberate fake out
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ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
Yes, that's the original version and meaning. Recently it seems to have morphed into an either/or concept -- the mule gets the carrot for being good or gets hit with the stick if it is stubborn.
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Moving the goalposts
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout in what way?
the carrot and stick Started out the way in the illustration
@SatyrService every step you take.. the end goal stays the same distance away..
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
What makes you think the carrot will serve as motivation if it is never given once the task is achieved? Contrary to popular opinion, animals ain't dumb.
But if th reward is never given, then why the stick ?
@OogieBoogie the stick was not originally offered as a punihment. just the tool for holing the reward put of reach
@ChipmunkErnie Yes, that references "dangling a carrot" - the saying that metaphors the promise of reward.

Where that saying comes from is "to use the carrot or the stick" - which metaphors reward and/or punishment.
Orignially the rider held both motivators, not just one.

@SatyrService

It is a saying/concept that is found in other languages and manners:
"The pastry or the whip"
"Five fingers or five bullets"
"Pano palo" = bread or the stick
Patronage and Fear
Positive and negative reinforcement

 
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