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OogieBoogie · F
But if th reward is never given, then why the stick ?
SatyrService · M
@OogieBoogie te stick is npt a tool of punishment
it is a toool of deception. the stick hold the carrot ( reward) forever out of reach see the illustrati0n?
it is a toool of deception. the stick hold the carrot ( reward) forever out of reach see the illustrati0n?
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OogieBoogie · F
@SatyrService ah.
I see the issue here.
This saying is an old one.
Originally there were two held objects: a stick, held behind, and a carrot dangled from a stick by a string in front.
The carrot represented the promise of reward, and the stick threatened the promise of punishment.
From this, another saying evolved: "to dangle the carrot", which is obviously to tempt or coerce with a reward.
Its not surprising that these two sayings could get mixed up.
The second metaphor has historically been picked up by political cartoonists and used to represent the many promises that politicialns make.
I see the issue here.
This saying is an old one.
Originally there were two held objects: a stick, held behind, and a carrot dangled from a stick by a string in front.
The carrot represented the promise of reward, and the stick threatened the promise of punishment.
From this, another saying evolved: "to dangle the carrot", which is obviously to tempt or coerce with a reward.
Its not surprising that these two sayings could get mixed up.
The second metaphor has historically been picked up by political cartoonists and used to represent the many promises that politicialns make.
SatyrService · M
@OogieBoogie the stick was not originally offered as a punihment. just the tool for holing the reward put of reach
OogieBoogie · F
@ChipmunkErnie Yes, that references "dangling a carrot" - the saying that metaphors the promise of reward.
Where that saying comes from is "to use the carrot or the stick" - which metaphors reward and/or punishment.
Orignially the rider held both motivators, not just one.
Where that saying comes from is "to use the carrot or the stick" - which metaphors reward and/or punishment.
Orignially the rider held both motivators, not just one.
OogieBoogie · F
@SatyrService 
It is a saying/concept that is found in other languages and manners:
"The pastry or the whip"
"Five fingers or five bullets"
"Pano palo" = bread or the stick
Patronage and Fear
Positive and negative reinforcement

It is a saying/concept that is found in other languages and manners:
"The pastry or the whip"
"Five fingers or five bullets"
"Pano palo" = bread or the stick
Patronage and Fear
Positive and negative reinforcement