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And yet it’s also an example of "acceptable" socialism where we could do better—if we wanted to.
helenS · 36-40, F
Depends on where you live. Public education in many European countries is excellent.
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@helenS yes!
It’s better than kids not having access to education.
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@666Maggotz excellent points!
To clarify, I think it’s possibly to go back and fill in areas that we didn’t get in the first pass.
At some point in history, skills were developed, then schools were established to teach the skills ??
I am ok with fewer people on the planet💀..
For parents who have kids in schools now, they must understand that public schools are not babysitting programs.
They must model learning for their child to want to learn
To clarify, I think it’s possibly to go back and fill in areas that we didn’t get in the first pass.
At some point in history, skills were developed, then schools were established to teach the skills ??
I am ok with fewer people on the planet💀..
For parents who have kids in schools now, they must understand that public schools are not babysitting programs.
They must model learning for their child to want to learn
@666Maggotz I learned how to self educate myself from third grade on, my Grandfather taught me the fundamentals, always look for original sources, and to read anything and everything that interests me. I was already a voracious reader by then, having my own library card at the age of four.
@NativePortlander1970 so? Not everyone is you. I would not have been able to educate myself because I have learning disabilities. I NEEDED a teacher and a speech therapist because I was non-verbal until I was 4. I also had a neglectful family who would have taught me nothing. My own grandmother was illiterate until the day she died at 64.
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In the US that holds true
But not in parts of Europe
But not in parts of Europe
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@SW-User exactly.
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@SW-User I'm living in the wrong country
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@SW-User several of us are.
TexChik · F
Education began its decline when Jimmy Carter created the Dept of Education and federalized it.
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@TexChik I’ve heard this…states still have a great deal more decision making power regarding policy.
TexChik · F
@SW-User but would not receive federal funding if they did NOT follow their guidelines.
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@TexChik I know the game really well.
Local taxpayers still have a great deal of sway in what happens in their community schools. They don’t act on things though.
Local taxpayers still have a great deal of sway in what happens in their community schools. They don’t act on things though.
It's true ,especially the lower the median income of the area of the school is
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@PepsiColaP Chicago has one of the highest per capita spending per student and among lowest academic rating in America
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
It's not all about spending. Public education relies upon engagement throughout society, common goals, and private schools not always creaming off the most talented children.
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@Patriot96 proof? Do you teach?
In a union state?
In a union state?
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@SW-User head of national teachers union dictated covid shut down in schools despite SCIENTIFIC evidence to the contrary
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@Patriot96 the states made that call. My state didn’t listen to the NEA or UFT.
Try again.
Are you a school district employee?
If not you can shut the fuck up.
Try again.
Are you a school district employee?
If not you can shut the fuck up.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
In 1979 US was number one in the world in Mathematics and Scienc. The Carter created Dept of Ed. We are ranked around 139th behind Zimbabwe
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@Patriot96 correlation isn’t causation.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@SW-User your blindness equates to ignorance. Causation
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@Patriot96 oh , ok…math doctor.
Harry121 · M
I went to a public primary school and a private high school and its better in some ways but worse in many others
Convivial · 26-30, F
Why bother... It sounds like you already have it made up
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@Convivial give it a shot