The COVID-19 vaccine makes your body strong by producing an immune response that generates antibodies that, while they can't prevent you from getting or spreading COVID-19, do help your body fight an active infection.
@Holdontothefire Then tell us in what way you are objective. Reminder: objectivity, in science (as in other disciplines) allows you to look OBJECTIVELY at both (or all, if there are more than two) sides of a question. You have subscribed 100% to the one answer that is, knowingly, presented to you by the media, who are deliberately concealing all the other facts from you.
Your choice: remain in their endless loop of propaganda, or think outside their box. But if you leave your comfort zone, be prepared for many shocks. It ain't nice out there. But you can be free, unlike now.
@Holdontothefire stopworldcontrol.com there’s one for ya! Have a read, see what the doctors, lawyers and scientists are saying about your wonderful ‘vaccines’
The vaccine is not useless, it's just not a condom either(if you'll forgive the metaphor). It can't prevent you from getting Covid, it's to help you to get mildly sick and prevent you from getting really really sick and dieing from it.
It's effectiveness just doesn't last forever because the human body's lymphatic system and viruses are a complicated thing. It's not a one and done deal. Everyone's body is different and complicated and the effectiveness of a vaccine can wear off, and viruses can mutate. Eventually the booster shot's effectiveness will wear off and there will be another booster shot most likely for anyone with a compromised immune system or if a new virus strain of Covid becomes more deadly.
The vaccine does not corrupt your immunity. The Vaccines utilizing mRNA are actually safer for patients, more effective, faster and cheaper to make, and don't need to use infectious elements to teach a human body to fight a virus like the old way. It can not and does not change any DNA. It simply teaches certain cells to create an antigen. And Like antivirus software on a computer...you need to update it sometimes
Natural immunity is not better in cases where a sickness can kill you. The vaccine has proven to give you a better chance of survival. A vaccine is giving your body's immune system the best chance to fight off the virus so you don't end up in a hospital.
Your body may feel weak after a vaccine or booster shot because it's kicking your immune system into responding and getting ready to fight a virus. That's why you feel tired, sore, feverish, or may get a rash or swollen lymph nodes. It's actually a very good sign because it means you know it's working.
Don't worry, I know what you were trying to say. And yes dippy, when called for, I always provide evidence. I did just the other day and asked for the same from you. As did at least one other SW member.
You, on the other hand...................tumbleweed.
@hippyjoe1955 I'm sorry to say that I think you're wrong.
I am very sorry for your loss and the very Ill health of your friend. That is not always easy to deal with. If their extreme health problems really are directly from a vaccine then that is rare. But perhaps still possible.
But I fail to understand how you are more informed when your theory is based off "some people I know". Which is really vague and really doesn't strike me as as very scientific or informative to me. I've always learned that basing my knowledge on something like if I used what a small circle of average friends and coworkers all say to me about a given topic means I'd be wrong at least like 50 percent of the time. I see other people make that same fallacy.
But like I said, we'll have to agree to disagree and wish each other good health.
@room101 He reminds me of one of my uncles who debates in a similar manner. Who I had a devil of a time trying to convince that 5g internet is not going to kill everyone during the last time I saw him because he believes what a coworker said and what his son and wife says and what Fox news said one time about it over anything that refutes it.
They are playing games at this point. Of course they want peoples' immune systems weakened so they can invent some new "cure" and then big pharma gets richer.
It is much like the feds and corporations to screw everything up just so they have something to "fix" later.
@littlepuppywantanewlife Before covid it was like this - Under 18, one automatically had autism. 18 and up automatically had type 2 diabetes. Older people automatically had COPD.
They are trying to make sales so of course they want everyone to think they are sick.
Kind of like when you take your car in for a basic service and they find $3,000 worth of other stuff that they want to replace.
Our immune system was made for a reason. Once we have it and recover, it is stronger than any false injection. Or, excuse me, 20 injections! Yikes. That is going to have very diverse affects on bodies of those people and their internal organs.
Well, few people who have not taken the vaccine have survived.
Oh I know many who survived it, including myself. They stayed home, took care and recovered. It's a personal choice (to vaccine or not) and not for anyone to dictate others choices or how they live their life.
@Carissimi Then you heard wrong or they lied. https://journals.lww.com/jcma/Fulltext/2021/09000/Does_COVID_19_vaccination_cause_excess_deaths_.2.aspx Could we have the name of this top cardiologist and an explanation of where they got this notion from?
Dr. Peter McCullough, a cardiologist/internist/epidemiologist. I watched his interview on the “Darkhorse” podcast, and Joe Rogan. I doubt he’s a liar. @ninalanyon
McCullough testified before a committee of the Texas Senate in March 2021, posted to YouTube by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, in which he made false claims about COVID-19 and COVID-19 vaccines, including that people under 50 years of age and survivors do not need the vaccine and that there is no evidence of asymptomatic spread of COVID-19.[27]
Posted on the Canadian online video sharing platform Rumble, McCullough gave an interview in April 2021 to The New American, the magazine of the right-wing John Birch Society, in which he advanced anti-vaccination messaging, including falsely claiming tens of thousands of fatalities attributed to the COVID-19 vaccines.[46] In May 2021, McCullough gave an interview in which he made claims about COVID-19 and COVID-19 vaccines which were "inaccurate, misleading and/or unsupported by evidence," including that survivors cannot be re-infected and so do not require vaccination and that the vaccines are dangerous.[28]
In an interview on the Fox News program Tucker Carlson Tonight in May 2021, McCullough claimed that hydroxychloroquine is effective for treating COVID-19 despite there being no supporting evidence.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_A._McCullough
Idk tho, my current partner(not vaccinated) just got covid and he's been sick really bad, meanwhile I (vaccinated) didn't even show the slightest symptoms
@Carazaa So you don't know that the CDC is a branch operation of big pharma? Strange. Here is a clue. Many of the directors of big pharma served in the CDC at one point or other. I wouldn't trust that source if you paid me.
@littlepuppywantanewlife The CDC has done much research and they continue. The Moderna vaccine is the strongest and will give people the most side effects and more antibodies than any of the other. I did the pfizer vaccines even though it does not last as long because its a little weaker. God gives us good medicines and good cures when we ask in Jesus name. I am not going to listen to lies! Bye! This is why the USA is advanced in medicine! And why my Dad did research here!
@Carazaa The CDC doesn't do research. It is a clearing house. If you think the CDC is God then I guess..... I think God gave me a strong immune system and a functioning brain for a reason. Part of that reason is to listen to Him and not Caesar.
Just like with flu shots, some will get very sick, and even parish. That's just life. It's not possible to inoculate a respiratory virus, period.
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Oi vey .. What about this is so difficult to understand? Yes it is still possible to get covid even with the vaccine...just like flu...however the intent is to minimize the effects of covid just like flu vaccine can minimize the effects of the flu....this really isn't rocket science....
I haven't. But I did get covid and was very very sick. Now my body will be able to fight the virus on its own. Even if you're vaccinated you can still get it.
@littlepuppywantanewlife I do understand your motives and reasons and I don't think the less of you for doing what you did. I do hope you are able to fully recover and that those who forced you into getting jabbed receive the justice they so richly deserve.
@SW-User So you don't know how the vax works? From those who designed the vax shutting down your innate immune system is needed in order for the mRNA to work its magic. Injected mRNA would simply be destroyed by the innate immune system were the immune system left alone. It happens all the time in nature. You cut yourself and you get mRNA in the wound. You don't die from it and it is taken care of at the site of the injury by the innate immune system.
@hippyjoe1955 HippyJoe, haven't spoken to you for a long time. Last time was when you said you had all these studies supporting your view, but could never provide any links.
You always sent people onto Google to find your fakes studies, always said look them up. SW knows you well for doing that. And you say I'll look the fool. You are the professional!
The vaccine corrupts your immunity. The natural immunity of our body is much better. The covid vaccine makes your body weak in beginning because it corrupts your cells, DNA.
@Punches It does shut off your innate immune system though. It has to in order to invade the cells it needs to in order to create the spike proteins. The method of doing that was created in Canada.
It’s just the way immunity works. The issue with the messaging is they have to deal in absolutes so the anti vax lobby doesn’t have a sound bite to lock on to. It does not corrupt dna btw.
@room101 So you don't know that all the studies in favor of the vax are from institutions that have a financial interest in the wide spread usage? I did answer your question. You just don't like the answer.
@hippyjoe1955 erm............nope. No answer to the question re the reality of Covid-19. Just your usual rants about the vaccines. You do understand that, although related, the reality of Covid-19 and the efficacy and safety of the vaccines are two different issues right?
OK, so you are refusing to answer, fine. Let's move on to something else.
Above, @Scribbles has asked you to tell her which sources would be acceptable to you. She has gone further and asked which sources would be unacceptable to you.
Your reply:
"Any source not financially benefiting from the vax."
As an avowed capitalist, wouldn't that be something that, you would not only expect, you would also applaud?
Are you not being more than a little disingenuous?
Are you not imposing a restriction which is not only impossible to overcome but is also completely at odds with your own socio-political and economic ideologies?
