So the thing is after two doses. People are getting covid and omicron as well.

@Zeusdelight no i disagree. I didn't realise how correct i am till today. When I felt severely ill because of so called vaccine.

@littlepuppywantanewlife AH, that is evidence - you had a reaction, so everything you hear must be right. Blow the science, blow the information about possible reactions, just go to your biases and yell from the tree tops.

Forget about the dead and dying, just be self important and selfish

@Zeusdelight Yes. I am being selfish. Asking is not wrong. I expected people to be open about this and share insight out with a knowledge.

@littlepuppywantanewlife Asking by saying "two useless vaccines" "mankind it totally effed up" that is your way of asking. You haven't asked anything.

Your selfishness is about believing your ignorance to the detriment of your fellow humans and the non-care of anyone.

Just like the parents who were anti-vaxxers and died leaving young children alive. How more selfish can people be???

@Zeusdelight i didn't post any evidences. But none of the other people did post evidences. You better know that people who took both doses are also dying from covid. Omicron is effected to mostly vaccinated people only.


https://m.timesofindia.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/explained-why-are-fully-vaccinated-people-with-no-travel-history-testing-positive-for-omicron/amp_etphotostory/88337542.cms

@littlepuppywantanewlife Please provide evidence of your claims with their sources.

Then I'll check to see if they are accurate and credible. Then I'll be aware.

@Zeusdelight Modern Covid-Conditioned Man canot exist without "sources" for everything. When your wife comes back from the shopping mall and says they've got a special offer on quadruple Fauci-approved virus-excluding masks, do you say "source?" Try believing people, for a change?

So sick of seeing the Vaccine-Dependent start their every comment with "Source?"

Hint: be like awakened people - do your OWN research. We're not here to spoonfeed you.

@WalterF Look where your own misguided research has got you. You think you know where to start your own research, but you have absolutely no idea. That is the shame, you don't know what you don't know and that is where you start your research.

I do listen to people, the same people who rely on my expertise when they need my advice. It has done me well over the years as it has done them. We know we can rely on what we say and we tell people of our sources the background of any of our ideas as we have nothing to hide.

I believe people who know what they are talking about. They prove it by giving me their sources that I can verify. You, on the other hand, want me to believe what you are saying. Why would I?

@Zeusdelight I don't particularly expect you to believe me - I am not the writer of this post. What I WOULD suggest, is that you could accept that there are, out there, on internet (and being "on internet" is not automatically a sign of conspiracy), many thousands of scientists who over the last two years have genuinely been pursuing their activity as scientists (testing, questioning, studying, experimenting, analysing, debating), and that they have, through these legitimate unbiased and disinterested activities, developed other points of view than "The Science" as it is one-sidedly presented by "The Scientists" through all media worldwide.

You might bear in mind that these scientists, including very highly qualified top-level medical specialists, who are quite legitimately interested in dissecting the virus at the heart of this pandemic and finding as many ways to combat it as possible, are no more deluded or intellectually naive than you or me.

You might be willing to admit that the media - worldwide - could, if necessary, be BOUGHT (general funding, grants, advertising...) by parties with astronomical sums of money, and told what message to communicate - a directive which they would happily obey in order to keep the millions flowing in. It COULD happen, no? After all, who will not bend their morals for money in abundance?

You might be able to accept that these same uber-rich and uber-influential parties could - if they so wished - create a new jobtitle, set up and finance an entirely new concept, a network of "fact-checkers", tasked with undermining the credibility of EVERY scientist who speaks out against the official narrative, so that any narrative-follower who quips "source?" when confronted with disturbing alternative views can look them up on the potentially bought electronic media like Google, be directed automatically to a "fact-checking" site, and gleefully harvest and reproduce all the "fact-checkers'" often laughable fabrications about these scientists and how they must not be given any credibility.

Sir, you owe it to yourself to accept that there are other highly-qualified, evidence-based, analysis-based, non-theoretical facts out there. It's just that you are not allowed to explore them.

But then again, you obviously have no desire to step outside your comfort zone - which may be summarised as: my government and its Scientists with The Data are protecting me from getting very very ill, and I take refuge in their decisions and am happy to comply in every way I can.

If you are happy in that position, then I wish you well. I stepped outside it 18 months ago, and what I have learned is very uncomfortable and worrying. But I would rather be in my position and be FREE, than in yours and be a slave to my mask.

@WalterFScott W. Atlas, M.D. who was recruited by Trump to serve on the covid response team has written a book. In it he describes the anti science mentality of Fauci and Birx et al. He would go to the meetings having read the studies and followed the science only to be shut down by his nemesis (Fauci/Birx) who had not read the studies or followed the science. It would seem that Fauci Birx are not scientists at all. They are highly successful bureaucrats that advanced the bureaucratic agenda. Science was ignored by them and continues to be ignored to this day.

@Zeusdelight Sorry, but you are talking UTTER RUBBISH

@WalterF You are a funny Guy. And I see you enjoy that other funny guy, hippyjoe1955 - what a pair.

@Zeusdelight Any time you have evidence in support of you ideas you are free to post them. Until then you appear the fool on this thread.

@hippyjoe1955 HippyJoe, haven't spoken to you for a long time. Last time was when you said you had all these studies supporting your view, but could never provide any links.

You always sent people onto Google to find your fakes studies, always said look them up. SW knows you well for doing that. And you say I'll look the fool. You are the professional!