The Brits are about to change one word in their national anthem. Can you imagine the chaos that would happen if the US had to do this?
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bijouxbroussard · F
Yep, written by a slave-owning attorney with the additional stanza: 😞
[quote] No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.[/quote]
I was also watching a discussion among people who thought our new national anthem should be the theme from “The A Team”. Worked for me. 😅
[quote] No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.[/quote]
I was also watching a discussion among people who thought our new national anthem should be the theme from “The A Team”. Worked for me. 😅
REMsleep · 41-45, F
@bijouxbroussard This doesn't surprise me or move my position on the matter because the great majority of founding fathers and other historical leaders had morals that would not pass muster today. None of them would have respected me as a person.
Its totally expected. I understand your view but to me its more about all the Americans who fought for our country singing it and all of that. What the song had come to mean to the country.
Its totally expected. I understand your view but to me its more about all the Americans who fought for our country singing it and all of that. What the song had come to mean to the country.
bijouxbroussard · F
@REMsleep And just as that concept of us as human beings has largely evolved, (along with our Constitution via Amendments) I’m not wedded to that anthem. As both I and others have mentioned, it [b]wasn’t[/b] always this country’s anthem.
WanderingSavage · M
AMelancholyHaunting · 41-45, M
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
Sadly, too many would be confused to learn that God Bless America is not the National Anthem as it is.
REMsleep · 41-45, F
Yes but instead of calling everyone stupid I recognize the good things about our differences.
America has reaped both good and bad from our culture of being weary of big government and being absolute in our desire to stick word for word to our traditions and founding documents.
I don't identity with the crazy people that you posted images of yet I too would be extremely concerned if we changed a word in our national anthem.
America has reaped both good and bad from our culture of being weary of big government and being absolute in our desire to stick word for word to our traditions and founding documents.
I don't identity with the crazy people that you posted images of yet I too would be extremely concerned if we changed a word in our national anthem.
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REMsleep · 41-45, F
@Really
I won't respond to the first point, its self explanatory and you don't see it that way.
[quote] So" - in most cases two different translators will fail to produce identical text. Sorry if you failed to grasp that. [/quote]
I totally get that since I speak two languages and know quite a few words in several more.
But that is not the point. If something is sacred in a certain language then of course translating it is acceptable to communicate the concept/s to parties who cannot understand the source language. But just as students of the Quran must ultimately learn Arabic the source material is always considered most accurate and unchangeable. Translations may change as new context becomes available. But if the source altered everything else comes into question.
A national anthem is not a sacred religious text but it is an example of something old and full of tradition.
[quote] I don't care about the song. [/quote]
It seems that you are perhaps deliberately not understanding.
I don't care about the national anthem per se. I don't hear it and feel inspired, it doesn't hold special meaning for me but it is my country's anthem and I respect the country and its history and traditions. Changing the song would represent many things to me all of which are bad.
That is what I mean.
I meantioned Trumpers because the OP posted pics of Capitan rioters as the main group which would be " up in arms" regarding changing a word of the national anthem. Didn't you see the pics? I didn't come out of nowhere with it.
My original post conveyed the idea that although I am nearly the polar opposite of the people shown in the photos I don't want to make fun of them too quickly for having certain standards.
I won't respond to the first point, its self explanatory and you don't see it that way.
[quote] So" - in most cases two different translators will fail to produce identical text. Sorry if you failed to grasp that. [/quote]
I totally get that since I speak two languages and know quite a few words in several more.
But that is not the point. If something is sacred in a certain language then of course translating it is acceptable to communicate the concept/s to parties who cannot understand the source language. But just as students of the Quran must ultimately learn Arabic the source material is always considered most accurate and unchangeable. Translations may change as new context becomes available. But if the source altered everything else comes into question.
A national anthem is not a sacred religious text but it is an example of something old and full of tradition.
[quote] I don't care about the song. [/quote]
It seems that you are perhaps deliberately not understanding.
I don't care about the national anthem per se. I don't hear it and feel inspired, it doesn't hold special meaning for me but it is my country's anthem and I respect the country and its history and traditions. Changing the song would represent many things to me all of which are bad.
That is what I mean.
I meantioned Trumpers because the OP posted pics of Capitan rioters as the main group which would be " up in arms" regarding changing a word of the national anthem. Didn't you see the pics? I didn't come out of nowhere with it.
My original post conveyed the idea that although I am nearly the polar opposite of the people shown in the photos I don't want to make fun of them too quickly for having certain standards.
