Afghanistan - ‘an extraordinary success’?

You seem to be a little confused.

That top picture is of an Afghan sitting in a helicopter that's been rendered useless by the 82nd Airborne prior to leaving Afghanistan. He can push all the buttons he wants, but that thing is not going anywhere.

What is it that you believe was bungled during the evacuation?

Close to 123,000 were evacuated in about two weeks. That included 6,000 Americans.

The Pentagon said that an investigation will be conducted to determine why, given the fact that the US was well aware that a suicide attack was planned for the day it occurred and they knew exactly which gate, there were US casualties. All Americans had been warned not to come to the airport that day. The President talked about it multiple times two days before it happened.

This was tragic, and needs to be investigated but it's an operational screw up, rather than an executive one, though I doubt anyone will be disciplined, just as was the case on October 23rd 1983 in Beirut.

I would agree though, Afghanistan was a disaster. A twenty year long disaster. It was time for us to leave and there was no way to execute a clean exit. To suggest otherwise is playing politics.

And yes, we spent a lot on the Afghan National Army. The small arms and vehicles you see out there, were either handed to the Taliban by the Afghan National Army, or those are ex Afghan National Army who defected. There's not much anyone could have done about it. That is unless someone has a time machine, to go back 20 years, and not engage in a futile exercise of nation building.

Stop playing politics, and acknowledge that even if Trump was President, we would have pulled out of Afghanistan and it would not have gone flawlessly. It's like falling in a mud pit. You're not going to emerge clean.

What stings the most is the corporate media playing it down.. as usual .

Imagine a republican effed up this bad..

I can’t fathom you’ve 4 downvotes for this post Jean - people obviously don’t like hearing the truth 💜

There's no shame in getting beaten by the Afghans. They beat the British three times and also the Russians, so why not America too? Afghanistan cannot be conquered and held, for its mountains make travel near impossible and Afghan troops are constantly resupplied from Pakistan. The American withdrawal WAS largely successful, and despite the poor planning conceived under Trump. Lastly, I just want to say that I'm not fooled by weak Republican rhetoric that easily.

I have believed all along, this is a false flag op.

Obviously, Biden is being set up for a fall but there is way more.

The “mistakes” are too many and too egregious.

This is not to be blamed on mismanagement. Not one person openly involved, made any of these decisions.

Not politically nor militarily.

The refusal and silence to explain or answer , is very clear.

Too much exposed intel, says otherwise.

I’ve commented previously in three other posts.

I’m standing on those and waiting for the other boot to drop.

I am not keeping up with the news about this. I've heard of the 13 soldiers dying in the suicide bombing at the airport. I'm not sure what else has happened. But loss of life is basically unavoidable fact or war. Which is why we've been trying to pull out of this war for 2 decades. I'm not saying what was done is right. I just dont get why people get so hang up in semantics

I’m not humiliated. Me and everyone in my family said not to go in the first place. This is kind of more like an “I told ya so”/“thank god finally” moment for me

If you're not from the US, or from Afghanistan, why are you going on and on about it?

And why not keep it in the politics section. I have already muted three of the groups and this is still on.

Totally agree. This is an abysmal failure.

Right now the Taliban are flying around in a Black Hawk helicopter with an American hanged under the helicopter. What kind of success is that? It's a sad day, and Biden is patting himself on the back, for a job well done. He's so delusional.

We now have the leader of the Republican Party Mitch McConnell who wants us to believe that after spending trillions to pay the Afghan Government and it's Military to exist for 20 years, Afghanistan was a total success. Maybe for the Corporations that lobby Mitch but not for either country.

9/11 2 is likely not far off in the future once they hit their peak power in Afghanistan. But it will still be seen as created by the US government as many believe 9/11 was an inside job

I’ve seen this before…1975 Saigon….

If I agree with every word you say on Afghanistan that still would not encourage me to vote Republican over Democrat for the next President. Trump was abysmal and while Biden is no genius, he is HIGLY preferable to Trump. I will take a flawed president over an abysmal one at any point in time.

Perhaps the money saved could be used to help your own citizens.

Well I agree with you, well said!

The entire 20-year war is a colossal failure of epic proportions with enough blame to go around the world 3 times and only 1 person who had the guts to finally cut the losses. Thank goodness it's come to an end.

Sad

Afghanistan is known as the graveyard of empires . The US should have considered the country’s past first

You are so wrong about so much - sad.

Thank you, President Biden !

Lol, you don’t give a fuck.