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What Are Skeptics Afraid Of? [Spirituality & Religion]

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Skeptics fight hard against people of faith. Why? What are they afraid of? According to them, there is no God, or Heaven, or Hell. So, what are they afraid of? Why are they trying so hard to make us believe that science has taken the place of God? Why do they get so frustrated when the burden of proof is shifted onto them? Why do they hate God whom they claim never exists? Why?

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Ynotisay · M

Want to know the truth from an atheist? While I can't speak for all I can pretty confidently speak for most. And "we" don't give two shits if someone prays to rock as long as they're a good person, don't live a life of hypocrisy and hate the "other." Atheists don't hate god. Atheists don't believe in god so there's nothing to hate. And I'd say VERY confidently that atheists 'hate' things far less than the religious.

And I think it's important to remember that the burden of proof is not on non-believers. Our proof of something like evolution has a scientific method behind it. Just because science doesn't have every answer doesn't negate the answers it does have. The burden is on believers. And because belief is an opinion, your "side" will always come up short in the face of scientific, provable evidence. "It's in the bible" isn't enough.

So what you just did is take the stance that so many take. You're looking to feel persecuted. It's the made up "War on Christmas." Again, the vast majority of atheists couldn't care less about your beliefs as long as you walk the walk, don't tell others how to behave and keep religion OUT of this nation's politics. But it doesn't seem like that's how religion works. Religions are predicated on "us vs. them." "We're right - they're wrong." There's 2 billion Muslims in the world convinced that you are toast in the afterlife.

So don't give yourself so much credit in thinking that atheists give a shit about your beliefs. They/We/Me don't.

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JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M

@Ynotisay Wait, we can spend SW coins on vacations?????

Ynotisay · M

@JoeyFoxx Well since the money is make believe it's also a make believe vacation. Seems appropriate given the topic. ;)

JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M

@Ynotisay A make believe vacation...

sounds heavenly...

Yup. I did that.

Fernie · F

you are SO confused and blind..."blind faith" Non believers, atheists...call us what you please...do not hate god...because there IS no such thing...no invisible sky fairy...it does not exist...there is nothing to hate...get it? It's YOU who is afraid...to live without your imaginary friend...we do just fine living in reality

LeopoldBloom · M

It’s the other way around. Religious bigots sore no effort in attempting to impose their standards onto the rest of society, as well as quashing any atheist voices where they can get away with it. What are [i]they[/i] afraid of?

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Bushranger · 70-79, M

@Emosaur Or perhaps a sperm, lol.

wilderflower · F

@Bushranger 😆

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Pikachu

[quote]Skeptics fight hard against people of faith. Why?[/quote]

If you thought that a lie was pervading your culture, one that so often attempts to change the law in harmful ways, wouldn't you fight against it too?

[quote] Why are they trying so hard to make us believe that science has taken the place of God?[/quote]

If you saw that over and over and over and over things which had been attributed to god were found to have [i]natural[/i], scientific explanations, wouldn't you try to share that information?

[quote]Why do they hate God whom they claim never exists? Why?[/quote]

Why did people who watched Game of Thrones hate King Joffrey so much?

[c=#BF0000]P.S. When you said "skeptics", you were actually talking about atheists and i'll be happy to explain why if you disagree😉👍[/c]

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GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@Pikachu @Bushranger [quote]looks like that one got under your skin[/quote]

Nope. Just pity you is all.

Bushranger · 70-79, M

@GodSpeed63 Ah, more rhetorical genius.

Pikachu

@GodSpeed63

*yawn*

Sure bud. I too usually say stuff like "can't you do better than make yourself look like a fool" when i'm feeling pity rather than frustration😏👍

Won't wash.
Next time you make your claim, be better prepared to defend it.
Or don't because every time you back down from me, you demonstrate better than any argument i could make how frail and facile your little pet definition is.

Sharon · F

My concern if that people, especially children, will be deceived and exploited if religious BS goes unchallenged. I see how christians target children in the UK. They've even managed to get it written into law that UK schools must teach religion (in practice emphasizing christianity) and hold "broadly christian" daily religious assemblies of all the students.

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LeopoldBloom · M

@Sharon I'd be surprised if anyone from the FSM even asked for tax exemption.

The Scientologists had a long-standing beef with the IRS; gaining tax exempt status was a huge victory for them. I used to live with a Scientologist, and his opinion of the IRS was similar to how Billy Graham felt about Satan.

Sharon · F

@LeopoldBloom I've just tried to check Pastafarianism's tax status. It's recognized as a religion in Poland, The Netherlands and New Zealand. It appears it could be eligible for tax benefits in Poland. I don't see why it would be treated differently from other recognized religions in the other countries. Even in countries where Pastafarianism is not formally recognized, some grant Pastafarians the same freedoms to practice as followers of other religions.

LeopoldBloom · M

@Sharon Interesting. I know Scientology is not recognized as a religion in all countries. I don't know how easy it is to apply for formal recognition, it probably varies.

Piper · 61-69, F

There may be some without a belief and faith in a deity, who have some "fear" that they are wrong. Mostly though, those who actually fight against [i]people of faith[/i] do so because so many people who believe in a God, [i]their[/i] God...try to impose [i]their[/i] interpretation of the supposed words of that God on others. Actively, and very [b]judgmentally[/b].

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GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@SW-User [quote]To speak his word is NOT judging... His very word will judge us![/quote]

You got that right. Thank you for your input, sister.

SW-User

@GodSpeed63 Thank you sir for posting the truth. Sometimes hard truths, nevertheless truth, people kick back at it, and it has been my experience here that some Christians will not defend truth...I’m not in this faith to please people but to please God. Because I speak truth, many think I don’t love... but real love will always tell them the truth....God bless you. Keep up the good fight of faith. I will always support the word of Our God!

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@SW-User [quote] I will always support the word of Our God![/quote]

Amen, sister, amen!!

JBird · F

1. No, we don't fight hard against faith. It's the faiths fighting against each other to establish their God as of now.

2. I am skeptic and I am afraid of creepy crawlies and dirty dishes. Ugh. 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

3. I hate anything that disgust me.

4. No, we aren't trying hard to make you understand reality. Idiots can never change. Nobody can force anyone to be atheist. It happens only when reality hit them.

5. Uh, no dude. You get frustrated when we ask ask for proof because you don't any. You lie and escape.

6. That's exactly we ask you. How could we hate something that doesn't exist? You whole post is a waste of time.

Harriet03 · 41-45, F

The burden of proof is not or ever has been on the shoulders of the non beliver.
You make outrageous claims, BACK THEM UP! 🤷‍♀️

wilderflower · F

Do you read and follow every word of the bible?

Peapod · 61-69, F

I was raised a Christian and practiced my faith for years. I still have great respect for those that have faith, whatever their beliefs may be.

I suppose I just don't see one belief being the answer for everybody, since most people are not born in the same faith I was.

Who am I to say what God really wants?

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GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@SW-User [quote]For the true Christian, the Bible is our supreme authority.[/quote]

You just ain't whistling Dixie, sister.

SW-User

@GodSpeed63 That’s right and because I won’t change the words of Jesus, I’m hated. Also hated for believing it and speaking it. If we speak what HE says we are many times called a judge... and God in his heaven knows I KNOW I’m nobody’s judge! John 5:22 tells us:
For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: John 1:14 tells us: [b]And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. In John chapter 12: verse 48, Jesus tells us: “He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day”. I stand on his word without fear of people and unashamedly as he said, If we are ashamed of him, he will be ashamed of us when he comes in all his glory ...and if we suffer with him, we will reign with him. Jesus said, John 15:18-27 King James Version (KJV)

18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. (That tells me he was hated and his people will be hated too by this world that does not know him)!

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@SW-User [quote]That’s right and because I won’t change the words of Jesus, I’m hated. [/quote]

Amen.

Kwek00 · 41-45, M

Just look at anny theocratie or anny state where religious people take religion into account when they make civil law for everyone. That's what we are afraid off. 🤷‍♂️ We are afraid of religious people setting the norm, without anny good argument except: "it's in the scripture.". We are afraid of religious people denieing scientific evidence just because it doesn't match the scripture [i](in essence creating censorship of proof derived from material evidence in favor of an irrational believe in scripture)[/i].

canusernamebemyusername · M

Atheists try to stop it at a grassroots level so it never makes it into law. The next thing you know there is a hate filled theocratic state murdering people for heresy. Also there are many gods people really don't want to exist. The God of the Bible being one of them. Not only is he described as the author of darkness people would be terrified if such a tyrant existed. And tyranny must always be stood up to even if it is a lost cause. Better to reign in hell so to speak then to live in a true hell under a tyranny.

quitwhendone · M

If you knew anything about the scientific method, you would know that scientists meet their burden of proof.

SW-User

i don’t have the time in the day to hate something that doesn’t exist.

I am profoundly disappointed with the number of people who need an emotional crutch to help them through life.

Grow up 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🙄

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GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@Fernie [quote]YOU CAN'T HATE SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT EXIST!!!!!![/quote]

Pay attention, ma'am. People can believe you don't live, those who hate you. Not believing Yahweh lives is a part of their towards Him.

Fernie · F

@GodSpeed63 THIS is your brain on god...talking to godbots is talking to a rock

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@Fernie [quote]THIS is your brain [/quote]

Quit talking to yourself.

Fernie · F

I never see an Atheist come on here and post about it...just the godbots...what impact does our non belief have on your life? Why are you always trying to control everything? Leave people alone and mind your own business

QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M

There is nothing to be afraid of. Most “skeptics” don’t particularly care. Some people enjoy debate on abstract topics for its own sake.

[quote] Why are they trying so hard to make us believe that science has taken the place of God?[/quote]
Nobody is trying to make you believe that. Science has nothing to do with religion at all, except in situations where people cling to stone-age ideas about how the universe works, and attempt to apply religious beliefs to natural phenomena.

[quote] Why do they get so frustrated when the burden of proof is shifted onto them?[/quote]
Probably because you’re making a silly logical fallacy and no amount of explanation seems to get you past it.

Lmao is that Hercules? 😂

LadyGrace

"Yahweh is not a dictator like you think He is."

You're so right, Godspeed!! Have you ever known a dictator to kill himself for the sake of everyone else? If only people would realize that Jesus died on the cross [b]because[/b] he loves us so much and to save us from hell. That sure doesn't describe a tyrant or anyone to fear, now does it?

Kwek00 · 41-45, M

@LadyGrace
[quote]Have you ever known a dictator to kill himself for the sake of everyone else?[/quote]

Do you mean "Nietsche" is right? And that God is actually dead?

It's kinda funny that this is so important, that God killed himself for the sake of everyone else. While God knew from the start that he was going to resurrect himself? It's like shooting yourself in the head knowing that you will survive annyway, it becomes a meaningless act because you know the outcome in advance. Of course, it sounds pretty cool in the story, because it's romantic. Objectively speaking it's just theatrical.

I also wonder how this act makes an actor in a story less then a dictator? The entire story long he dictates what needs to be done and how people should behave. And if you don't follow the dictates you are punished because God is really authoritarian. The fact that he killed himself doesn't really change that fact at all.

And people can do the most evil things out of love. Love can be a really good motivator to do what "needs to be done". That doesn't mean the act that "needs to be done" can't be dictatorial. It depends on the act.

Ryannnnnn · 31-35, M

Tbh I don't understand that either and i'm agnostic. Theres self proclaimed athiests who relish in telling other people their beliefs are wrong, and its the intention behind it that I think is the interesting part. Its like saying "I have nothing to believe in so nobody else can".

Its the hubris of it that I think is hypocritical, "I know the answer to an unanswerable question" through science even though science is the measurement of what we already claim to know.

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JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M

Are you sure it’s the skeptics who are afraid?

If there are no gods and no heaven, would that make you afraid?

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JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M

@GodSpeed63 ok pumpkin. I’ll keep an eye out.

Fernie · F

@GodSpeed63 what are Athiests afraid of exactly? I'm not at all afraid to die because that heaven and hell crap isn't real...YOU are afraid of HELL...I, like most of my free thinking friends are afraid of earthly, real, actual things...you are afraid of an invisible sky fairy and belive the sick words of that buybull written by and for men...it's pro violence, anti-woman,it controls the weak minded...who is really afraid here? How ridiculous to be afraid of the non-existent

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@Fernie [quote]what are Atheists afraid of exactly?[/quote]

Atheists are not afraid of anything because they're dead in ground underneath their headstones. Whatever skeptics are afraid of, you tell me.

SW-User

I think it all boils down to the fact they don’t want anyone or anything telling them what they can or can’t do. They don’t want to be held accountable for anything... And when one only tells them what ‘the Bible’ says they are furious which makes no sense to me whatsoever. If they don’t want to believe, that’s their choice but to rage and hate someone for only telling what the Bible says... If one posts about Hindu or Islam, I’d just scroll on down because they believe doesn’t make me hostile towards them nor hate them. To tell people what Jesus says is NOT judging... And as adults if they don’t want to hear or read it, they should keep on scrolling...

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@SW-User [quote]They don’t want to be held accountable for anything... And when one only tells them what ‘the Bible’ says they are furious which makes no sense to me whatsoever. [/quote]

You got that right, sister.

TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 41-45, MVIP

notice how theyre always angry too?..

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SW-User

@GodSpeed63 18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@SW-User [quote] 18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.
[/quote]

Amen, sister, amen. That is truth.

SW-User

@GodSpeed63 I know it from his word and by living... 👍🏻But... if I suffer with him, I’ll reign with him!

SW-User

I think they're people who like debating as much as you do.

Fernie · F

@SW-User debates have nothing to do with it...we simply do NOT accept that fairy tale buybull...or a guy in a robe living in the sky...it is pure nonsense

Fernie · F

Another hit and run goddy....I'll be surprised if he returns

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BalmyNites · F

They always do, they doth protest too much

xixgun · M

Not always. I'm a skeptic and I never bothered anyone about religion or faith.

SW-User

I just bought this movie for 5 dollars and recently and watched it. Excellent!!!!

MethDozer · M

Couldn't care less about beliefs. It's the institutionalization of it into toxic policies all are subjected to.
Since so many of y'all cannot Keep it to yourself and out of the law, you bring the fight onto the grounds of logical arguments against.

Sorry, but the faithful as a general collective group have brought it on themselves. Exceptions are just that.

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