@Pikachu [quote]Yahweh is in your imagination and my posts prove it.[/quote]
Your posts have proved that you are deceived and your words are full of deceit. The Truth is that Yahweh is not my imagination but He lives and His Word is true.
@Pikachu [quote]You get that I'm messing with you, right? Just repeating the same kind of inane claims that you are but in the other direction, yeah?[/quote]
The only difference is, you're making unsupported claims, I'm sharing the truth of what God shares with me. 😀
Me, I'm not going to confess to my hubris, nor am I going to measure myself against an omnipotent being when it's all I can manage half the time to get myself dressed in the morning and at work on time.
I'll say this, though. My intentions are pretty good, and I don't think I'd like it letting all the bad stuff happen that's happened.
But, it's easy to throw stuff at the screen from the peanut gallery. When I become divine, I'll let you know how I measure up.
Since you think humans are an exception, let's specifically discuss the evidence of [i]human[/i] evolution and our relation to other primates. Let's see how creation better explains this evidence.
[u]Human Chromosome 2[/u] Examining genetic code has really given us a good reason to question why, if creation were true, it was done in such a way that it appears much more like common descent. Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes while the other great apes to which we are related have 24 pairs of chromosomes. On the face of it, this presents a problem for the theory of evolution and common decent. Why don’t the apes with whom we ostensibly share an ancestor have the same number of chromosomes as humans? According to evolution, all the great apes evolved from a common ancestor. Since an organism could not survive the complete deletion of a chromosome pair, evolution predicts that this missing pair must be extant somewhere in the gene code. If it’s not then evolution is dead in the water. But it is and we find it at human chromosome number 2. There we find the missing chromosome pair sandwiched between two other chromosomes with telomeres (the caps usually found on the outside of a chromosome) in the middle. A fused pair of chromosomes. So that missing chromosome pair wasn’t missing, it had just been fused with another pair of ape chromosomes.
[u]Endogenous Retroviruses[/u] To me the study of retrovirus genetic material offers some of the most compelling evidence for evolution. Retroviruses are viruses that reproduce by inserting their genetic information into host cells which then replicate. When these viruses infect reproductive cells, their genetic information is passed on to the progeny of the host. This results in the presence of retroviral rna in our human genetic code. Junk dna from a foreign organism. The interesting thing is that we’ve been able to map the genome of other animals. For instance, the chimpanzee. When we look at the chimp’s dna we find, to an astonishing degree, the same retroviral genetics in the same places that we find them in human dna. So why is there useless, inactive junk genetic information in our genome that corresponds so well to that of chimps? Evolution tells us that it is because of common decent. That humans and chimpanzees evolved from a common ancestor that also had that retroviral rna in those places. If you espouse a creation model, you must then explain why a creator might include useless, garbage genetic information in the same places in different species.
Notice that the answer to ALL the evidence i have offered so far can be explained by shared ancestry and common descent. What single, unifying creation-based answer can you offer which has the same explanatory and predictive power?
@Sarabee [quote]cannot happen between humans to animals[/quote] Humans [b]are[/b] animals - we're a type of ape.
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Old restatement portrayed a strict God, that's how they looked at him, but mostly it was so they behaved well for fear. With Jesus came another view. Shouldn't be taken literally, because many of those depend on the context.
@Pikachu Jesus came to set us free from slavery! I'm not going to say another word. Have a lovely evening!
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I am unsure if I could consider myself morally superior because I really don't base the bible as my only tool to understand God. If everything that is written in the bible is completely endorsed and conducted by God himself, i'd have little choice but to see him in a different light than I do now. The way I see it, A God, whether it is the Christian God, Zeus, Loki, Lakshmi, has the right to do certain things that do not pertain to mankind. God himself instructed David to kill a man...Goliath I think. I may be wrong but if what I read in the bible is factual, then perhaps God himself cares not how his will is done whether it is done by his own hand, his angels or a human..It just has to be his will.
@Pikachu The thing that breaks my heart is people who blame God, and take no responsibility for themselves and live for this life. You have no idea why God does things. You judge God. it is very foolish. God sees eternity, you don't. Heaven is better than this world. There is a reason for everything in this life, for our good. Sometimes you sound like a 3 year old who throws a tantrum because you can't understand why people don't all get what they want. God wants our very best!
Yeah that's where faith comes in. You don't have an answer for why god lets the children of other mothers die. So you believe that he does it for a good reason. Just remember that for every miracle story like yours, there are other people who suffered tragedy despite their prayers. Faith makes allowance of a lot of things. Must be nice.
@Pikachu I did not say that at all. You missed my point! I said I get upset when I go on your posts because you are not kind! Your posts are ignorant about science, and God! You say things like the world came about by itself, and God is a psychopath. So so mean. He can hear you, and it wont fare well with you I am afraid. We spend so much time with you and you are as cold hearted about God as ever. I think it is Satan manipulating you to distract us from helping others here!And many, many, listen to you and you misrepresent God. Jesus loves us and died for humanity to free us from slavery!
Well i'm sorry my posts upset you. I don't say the things i say to be mean. Remember, to me this is not a real person or entity in the way you feel that he is. I'm just speaking the truth as i perceive it. Just like you.🙂
Ignorant about science? Well i think you're being unfair there but ok😉
@Pikachu It is time to take the kid gloves off when dealing with these nutcase extremists, Christopher Hitchens knew it, Stephen Fry and Richard Dawkins knows it. Believers are becoming increasingly violent and demanding our deaths in the 21st century of those of us that do not believe. We need to put them in their place, no more kumbaya pacifism.
I totally get that impulse. But i think you can be more effective by letting wads like him shoot their mouth off while you remain civil. Just makes them and their position look weak and childish while making yours look more reasonable by comparison. Just a suggestion. You do you!
@SW-User Good way to do it. I always find it baffling that people go by the Bible instead of their on relationship with the divine. Otherwise that is bibliolatry. Which is why the Bible itself says not to do. I mean the book you worship says not to worship it!?
No, yes and maybe, and also I don't know what you mean. I don't think about that stuff at all. I also try to be the best person I can be and then feel some grace with the rest, and I also try to learn everything I can about my MISSION AS A REALLY DECENT PERSON ON THIS PLANET and keep tweaking my behavior AND IMMEDIATE PURPOSES.
@Pikachu Actually I think I answered this once before and also it looks like the question changed, but I also think its just a fun question... It was a fun question right?
Not sure. The Bible is rather confusing between the old and new testament changes. I cannot say that I'm some kind of expert. I definitely have different views on right and wrong and what justifies punishment from what I've read but I don't think that makes me morally superior. I'm just some guy.
[quote] I answer your question. But it seems that your purpose of asking an opinion question is about getting how much agreement from others to your point[/quote]
Awww. That bums me out. Before i got to that part, I was literally just preparing to acknowledge that we have a different idea of how morality works, agreeing to disagree and thanking you for the discussion.
Thanks anyway, i guess.
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@Pikachu When I post an opinion question, I would never try to change others opinion to follow mine. That is how I learn by trying to understand others point before I can share them mine. I acknowledge that everybody has a different point of view, and each point of view all has its own value. And I value the diversity of opinion.
We were having a discussion, an exchange of points of view and at the end i was just trying to get a better understanding of what you were saying. Sorry if that came across that i was demanding that you agree with me.
Oh ok, fair enough i suppose. So it's wrong to support women being able to end the life of a fetus but moral for god to kill millions of living, breathing babies?
