Are you morally superior to the god of the bible? [Spirituality & Religion]
Let people you love suffer for not loving you back? Have you ever sanctioned slavery? Committed or ordered genocide?
Wow, i think i'm morally superior to jehova god....
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Old restatement portrayed a strict God, that's how they looked at him, but mostly it was so they behaved well for fear. With Jesus came another view. Shouldn't be taken literally, because many of those depend on the context.
Calling it divine, calling it justice does nothing to change the nature of the act. The act was one of mass slaughter. Killing millions of men, women and infants. That's an immoral act. If you disagree that it is an immoral act then explain why it should be considered so. If if cannot (and i think we both know that you cannot) then you are doing nothing more than taking refuge in a logical fallacy known a special pleading.
So do you have an argument or just a logical fallacy?
@Pikachu [quote]Calling it divine, calling it justice does nothing to change the nature of the act.[/quote]
When a policeman kills a criminal in the line of duty, we call it justice. When supposed 'doctors' kill babies in an abortion clinic, we call it murder.
God is God and has the right to administer justice on unrighteousness and no one has the right to judge Him for He is the Creator and we're the created.
Jeremiah 18:1-7
18 The word which came to Jeremiah from the Lord, saying: 2 “Arise and go down to the potter’s house, and there I will cause you to hear My words.” 3 Then I went down to the potter’s house, and there he was, making something at the [a]wheel. 4 And the vessel that he [b]made of clay was [c]marred in the hand of the potter; so he made it again into another vessel, as it seemed good to the potter to make.
5 Then the word of the Lord came to me, saying: 6 “O house of Israel, can I not do with you as this potter?” says the Lord. “Look, as the clay is in the potter’s hand, so are you in My hand, O house of Israel! 7 The instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, to pull down, and to destroy it, 8 if that nation against whom I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I thought to bring upon it.
Isaiah 45:5-10
5 I am the Lord, and there is no other; There is no God besides Me. I will gird you, though you have not known Me, 6 that they may know from the rising of the sun to its setting that there is none besides Me. I am the Lord, and there is no other; 7 I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, the Lord, do all these things.’ 8 “Rain down, you heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness; let the earth open, let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together. I, the Lord, have created it. 9 "Woe to him who strives with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth! Shall the clay say to him who forms it, ‘What are you making?’ Or shall your handiwork say, ‘He has no hands’? 10 Woe to him who says to his father, ‘What are you begetting?’ Or to the woman, ‘What have you brought forth?’ ”
lol do you? Did you think that by saying god has the right to do it that it somehow makes it a moral act? Sorry, no. Having the authority to do something does not necessarily make it moral.
Genocide is never anyone's duty. But maybe you side with all the other dictators who think that the ends justify the means and slaughtering people by the thousands is fine as long as your goal is just....
lol yeah, i thought you'd have trouble actually coming up with an argument for that one. Turns out mass slaughter is a hard thing to rationalize morally and i'm not the slightest bit surprised that you failed to do so. Neither am i surprised that upon realizing this fact, you fall back onto personal criticism.
@Pikachu [quote]I've spoken with you before[/quote]
What makes you think... Well, never mind. You couldn't answer my question even if you tried. The truth is not in you and you have no excuse for not believing the truth.
Cool thanks🙂 As long as you really [i]meant[/i] you were going to pray for me and not just as that weird passive aggressive barb chrisitans like to use for some reason.
@Pikachu Just found the answer for why killing babies is OK. https://www.desiringgod.org/interviews/what-made-it-okay-for-god-to-kill-women-and-children-in-the-old-testament
This guy explains it as punishment for years of sin. Obviously newborns are just oozing sin from all their years of evil thought and behavior.
@Pikachu It's nice to know that the death penalty is consistent with God's word. I mean to say, it would be terrible to have to break that particular commandment without some form of Biblical excuse.
