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Is it logically possible that the Bible is not true with all the fulfilled prophesies? [Spirituality & Religion]

The Bible is God's word and there are so many prophesies that have been fulfilled.




A Statistical Improbability


Some Bible scholars suggest there are more than 300 prophetic Scriptures completed in the life of Jesus. Circumstances such as his birthplace, lineage, and method of execution were beyond his control and could not have been accidentally or deliberately fulfilled.




In the book Science Speaks, Peter Stoner and Robert Newman discuss the statistical improbability of one man, whether accidentally or deliberately, fulfilling just eight of the prophecies Jesus fulfilled. The chance of this happening, they say, is 1 in 1017 power. Stoner gives an illustration that helps visualize the magnitude of such odds:




Suppose that we take 1017 silver dollars and lay them on the face of Texas. They will cover all of the state two feet deep. Now mark one of these silver dollars and stir the whole mass thoroughly, all over the state. Blindfold a man and tell him that he can travel as far as he wishes, but he must pick up one silver dollar and say that this is the right one. What chance would he have of getting the right one? Just the same chance that the prophets would have had of writing these eight prophecies and having them all come true in any one man, from their day to the present time, providing they wrote using their own wisdom.







The mathematical improbability of 300, or 44, or even just eight fulfilled prophesies of Jesus stands as evidence to his messiahship.



Prophecies of Jesus


Although this list is not exhaustive, you'll find 44 messianic predictions clearly fulfilled in Jesus Christ, along with supporting references from the Old Testament and New Testament fulfillment.




44 Messianic Prophecies of Jesus


Prophecies of Jesus Old Testament
Scripture New Testament
Fulfillment
1 Messiah would be born of a woman. Genesis 3:15 Matthew 1:20
Galatians 4:4
2 Messiah would be born in Bethlehem. Micah 5:2 Matthew 2:1
Luke 2:4-6
3 Messiah would be born of a virgin. Isaiah 7:14 Matthew 1:22-23
Luke 1:26-31
4 Messiah would come from the line of Abraham. Genesis 12:3
Genesis 22:18 Matthew 1:1
Romans 9:5
5 Messiah would be a descendant of Isaac. Genesis 17:19
Genesis 21:12 Luke 3:34
6 Messiah would be a descendant of Jacob. Numbers 24:17 Matthew 1:2
7 Messiah would come from the tribe of Judah. Genesis 49:10 Luke 3:33
Hebrews 7:14
8 Messiah would be heir to King David's throne. 2 Samuel 7:12-13
Isaiah 9:7 Luke 1:32-33
Romans 1:3
9 Messiah's throne will be anointed and eternal. Psalm 45:6-7
Daniel 2:44 Luke 1:33
Hebrews 1:8-12
10 Messiah would be called Immanuel. Isaiah 7:14 Matthew 1:23
11 Messiah would spend a season in Egypt. Hosea 11:1 Matthew 2:14-15
12 A massacre of children would happen at Messiah's birthplace. Jeremiah 31:15 Matthew 2:16-18
13 A messenger would prepare the way for Messiah Isaiah 40:3-5 Luke 3:3-6
14 Messiah would be rejected by his own people. Psalm 69:8
Isaiah 53:3 John 1:11
John 7:5
15 Messiah would be a prophet. Deuteronomy 18:15 Acts 3:20-22
16 Messiah would be preceded by Elijah. Malachi 4:5-6 Matthew 11:13-14
17 Messiah would be declared the Son of God. Psalm 2:7 Matthew 3:16-17
18 Messiah would be called a Nazarene. Isaiah 11:1 Matthew 2:23
19 Messiah would bring light to Galilee. Isaiah 9:1-2 Matthew 4:13-16
20 Messiah would speak in parables. Psalm 78:2-4
Isaiah 6:9-10 Matthew 13:10-15, 34-35
21 Messiah would be sent to heal the brokenhearted. Isaiah 61:1-2 Luke 4:18-19
22 Messiah would be a priest after the order of Melchizedek. Psalm 110:4 Hebrews 5:5-6
23 Messiah would be called King. Psalm 2:6
Zechariah 9:9 Matthew 27:37
Mark 11:7-11
24 Messiah would be praised by little children. Psalm 8:2 Matthew 21:16
25 Messiah would be betrayed. Psalm 41:9
Zechariah 11:12-13 Luke 22:47-48
Matthew 26:14-16
26 Messiah's price money would be used to buy a potter's field. Zechariah 11:12-13 Matthew 27:9-10
27 Messiah would be falsely accused. Psalm 35:11 Mark 14:57-58
28 Messiah would be silent before his accusers. Isaiah 53:7 Mark 15:4-5
29 Messiah would be spat upon and struck. Isaiah 50:6 Matthew 26:67
30 Messiah would be hated without cause. Psalm 35:19
Psalm 69:4 John 15:24-25
31 Messiah would be crucified with criminals. Isaiah 53:12 Matthew 27:38
Mark 15:27-28
32 Messiah would be given vinegar to drink. Psalm 69:21 Matthew 27:34
John 19:28-30
33 Messiah's hands and feet would be pierced. Psalm 22:16
Zechariah 12:10 John 20:25-27
34 Messiah would be mocked and ridiculed. Psalm 22:7-8 Luke 23:35
35 Soldiers would gamble for Messiah's garments. Psalm 22:18 Luke 23:34
Matthew 27:35-36
36 Messiah's bones would not be broken. Exodus 12:46
Psalm 34:20 John 19:33-36
37 Messiah would be forsaken by God. Psalm 22:1 Matthew 27:46
38 Messiah would pray for his enemies. Psalm 109:4 Luke 23:34
39 Soldiers would pierce Messiah's side. Zechariah 12:10 John 19:34
40 Messiah would be buried with the rich. Isaiah 53:9 Matthew 27:57-60
41 Messiah would resurrect from the dead. Psalm 16:10
Psalm 49:15 Matthew 28:2-7
Acts 2:22-32
42 Messiah would ascend to heaven. Psalm 24:7-10 Mark 16:19
Luke 24:51
43 Messiah would be seated at God's right hand. Psalm 68:18
Psalm 110:1 Mark 16:19
Matthew 22:44
44 Messiah would be a sacrifice for sin. Isaiah 53:5-12 Romans 5:6-8







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I don't think the bible actually does make very many successful prophecies.
I'm not a huge fan of prophecy in general because it is generally so vague that it can be applied to basically whatever you want.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]What i said was that maybe your god will have mercy on an unbeliever.[/quote]

He always does.
@GodSpeed63

lucky me then😉
@Carazaa

Thanks for the prayer, carazaa.🙂
msros · F
We will all know one day.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Harriet03 If you're going to get sick, go to the bathroom. I hope you feel well pretty soon.
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@GodSpeed63 [image deleted]
Sharon · F
@GodSpeed63 [quote]Won't wash.[/quote]
Just your worthless opinion again.
CookieLuvsBunny · 31-35, F
This is just one example of the Gospel writers Inventing a story in order to fulfill prophecy:

Brown, R.E.,[i] The Birth of the Messiah[/i]
[quote]The Gospel of Luke links the birth of Jesus to the census:

In those days a decree went out from Emperor Augustus that all the world should be registered. This was the first registration and was taken while Quirinius was governor of Syria. All went to their own towns to be registered. Joseph also went from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to the city of David called Bethlehem, because he was descended from the house and family of David. He went to be registered with Mary, to whom he was engaged and who was expecting a child.
— Luke 2:1–5

There are major difficulties in accepting Luke's account: the gospel links the birth of Jesus to the reign of Herod the Great (Luke 1:5: "In the days of King Herod of Judea there was a priest named Zechariah..."), but the census took place in 6 CE, nine years after Herod's death in 4 BCE; there was no single census of the entire empire under Augustus; no Roman census required people to travel from their own homes to those of distant ancestors; and the census of Judea would not have affected Joseph and his family, living in Galilee.[6] Some conservative scholars have argued that Quirinius may have had an earlier and historically unattested term as governor of Syria, or that he previously held other senior positions which may have led him to be involved in the affairs of Judea during Herod's reign, or that the passage should be interpreted in some other fashion.[9][10][11] Such arguments have been rejected on various grounds, including that there is no time in the known career of Quirinius when he could have served as governor of Syria before 6 CE, that the Romans did not directly tax client kingdoms, and that the hostile reaction of the Jews in 6 CE suggests direct taxation by Rome was new at the time.[12][13] Ralph Martin Novak says that these conservative interpretations spring from the assumption that the Bible is inerrant,[14] and Géza Vermes called such arguments "exegetical acrobatics".[15] Most scholars have concluded that the author of Luke's gospel made an error.[6] [/quote]
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Just shows Sigals complete lack of understanding of Isaiah 53 or Christianity or Jesus! Teaching. Sorry. Complete and utter drivel. @CookieLuvsBunny
CookieLuvsBunny · 31-35, F
@Speedyman
The disciples had no idea that Jesus was going to be executed. Their idea of a Messiah was a conquering king not a dead philosopher. You would be much better off the actually read the Bible that you say you believe
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Of course. It was only after the resurrection they realised what Jesus had been telling them all along - that the Messiah had to suffer and die as the prophets had predicted. Your problem us you leave the story unfinished because you don't like the ending. Note the early church preached the resurrection as it was this that nade sense of a suffering Messiah. Read 1Corinthians 15 where Paul says if the Nessiah has not been raised we are without hope. @CookieLuvsBunny
Zonuss · 41-45, M
Just because there is a misunderstanding or misinterpretation of the Bible, that does not mean it is not true. It means that you are truly far from the truth. 🙂
CookieLuvsBunny · 31-35, F
@Carazaa
I really enjoy our conversations. That guy Pfuzylogic got so rude I had to block him.
Your positions are well thought out and you are always very kind. I appreciate that
Carazaa · F
@Pfuzylogic The Bible is plain for the hungry, and confusing for the proud, but I know that Jesus helps me and I am so happy that you pfuzylogic is defending Jesus. It means a lot to Him. Because if we deny him he will deny us one day at the gate of heaven. We will be persecuted. Jesus stood up in heaven when Stephen was stoned to death. It isn't fun to defend Jesus some days but He has commanded us to do it, and we will be hated. I love you though🤗
Carazaa · F
redredred · M
You only claim those proohesies are fulfilled if you take the incredible leap and believe jesus is the divine son of god, a strongly mythical load of crap.

Prove that and your prophesies might mean something.
Oh! Amen, sister!! @Carazaa
Sharon · F
@Carazaa [quote]No it did stand up in court! The evidence is in! [/quote]
What is the case reference? I'd like to read the court transcripts for myself.
Sharon · F
@redredred [quote]The druids of ancient Ireland who refused conversion to Chritianity were telling the truth?[/quote]
Good point. People of many different and often contradictory faiths have died for their belief. Somehow they must have all been telling the truth.
JBird · F
That's great. But can you explain why dinosaurs weren't mentioned in Bible. Or humans evolved from apes. Or earth is round and it's revolving around Sun? Also if Christ is only true God, why is there other religions exist in the world?
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@JBird Amen to that hun! 🍷
Pfuzylogic · M
@Harriet03 @JBird
I will give you the same credit of not forcing your beliefs or lack of belief on me. I know that I am not the compelling force for belief nor do I pretend to be. Agnosticism is simply a rejection. It is not a belief. One of the biggest “idols” died recently and scientists have seen a newborn freedom since his demise.
Pfuzylogic · M
@Harriet03
Borrowing words from the Faithful?
The Bible is a man made set of tales who should be sold under fiction. Period.
Carazaa · F
@Underconstruction What about Syria?
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Underconstruction What about the actual tombs and artifacts that they have there in Israel right now that people have seen face to face. 🤔
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Obviously your profile name refers to your brain which is not been constructed properly to think logically@Underconstruction
Peaches · F
I think it's more like it's misunderstood. Some even believe it was created to keep man from killing each other?!😯 Many things have been kept from us and the bible is being questioned like never before. Like in the picture of "The Last Supper." The 12 Disciples...some believe one is a woman named Mary Magdalene.
Sharon · F
@Carazaa [quote]You are very disrespectful to women![/quote]
I'm a woman and he's always been respectful toward me, even when we strongly disagree on some point. That's more than I can say for some of the christians here.
Peaches · F
@Carazaa I didn't mean anything, I was thinking out loud. 🤔 I don't doubt there is something in the universe that cares for us.
Peaches · F
@Carazaa I have questions, sorry if I've offended you.
[quote]Is it logically possible that the Bible is not true with all the fulfilled prophesies?[/quote]

If a person would say the Bible is not true, it is essentially calling God a liar. The Bible is God’s Word, given to holy men of old by the Holy Spirit.

Do you doubt the prophecies? Yes, to date, they’ve all come true (up to this time). Proving they were true. Many more shall be fulfilled. In fact, ALL of them.
I truly believe we’re in the last days, too. Yet some would rather believe the lies of Satan, than the wisdom of God. @Carazaa
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@LadyGrace You got that right, sister.
Ha!! I write an article about God, and it’s marked “fetish”. There’s nothing fetish about it. Oh well. Satan is alive and still pouting. Eager to destroy. Figures. https://similarworlds.com/19-Spirituality-Religion/2634766-Its-so-awful-and-sad-that-bad-things-happen-in
@Carazaa
The Bible is just a compilation of fictional stories written by men.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Harriet03 [quote]🙄 SERIOUSLY?[/quote]

For God so loved Harriet that He sent His one and only Son, Jesus Christ, So when Harriet believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life.

That is God's personal invitation to you and to you alone. Yes, He does that with each and every person on this planet. It's up to you to decide what you want to do.
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@GodSpeed63 Tell him thanks but no thanks? I've seen what it does to people!!
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Harriet03 [quote]Tell him thanks but no thanks? I've seen what it does to people!![/quote]

Tell me, what does it do to people?
any text when it has enough words is prophetic if you want to interpret it thast way.... it even works with a phonebook
Pfuzylogic · M
@Strawberrry please I will take you on your challenge. Make a prophecy from the phone book, white pages for a decent challenge.
Carazaa · F
@Strawberrry Really? Are you kidding?
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
[image deleted]🤔
Carazaa · F
@Harriet03 Hates gays? No, he says that sinners wont enter heaven if we don't repent and trust in Jesus because he paid a heavy price for our sins. We have all sinned and come short of the Glory of God. I have repented, have you?🤗
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@Carazaa Repented?!!! I don't have Cognitive dissonance.
Carazaa · F
@Harriet03 that is great that you don't have cognitive dissonance but we all have to repent and have faith if we want to go to heaven God says.
winston · 80-89, M
I believe in many ways that Jesus in the New testament did fulfil many of the Old Testament prophecies.
The problem is that different verses, or groups of verses, appear to contradict other groups of verses. Not surprising when you realise the Bible was actually written over a period of approx. 1,000 years. You can find a verse of scripture to support any idea or lifestyle however weird. We need to read it as a whole and see the development of ideas and especially take Jesus' teachings seriously.
Carazaa · F
@Sharon I don't think that is possible.
Carazaa · F
@Sharon did you read all of acts?
Sharon · F
@Carazaa [quote]I don't think that is possible.[/quote]

Why not? Just because they contradict? You're wrong about that though.
I love your accurate, extensive list of Old Testament prophecy , showing they were fulfilled in the New Testament. I appreciate your hard work.
xixgun · M
Anything is possible, and I've heard, all things are possible through Christ.
Carazaa · F
@xixgun It's OK, Who is my helper, and who shall I fear? What can man do to me? God is my helper.
xixgun · M
@Carazaa Wasn't a slight against [i]you[/i]
Carazaa · F
@xixgun I realized that. Sorry!
I dont think we can read Genesis so literally - ie that the world was created in seven days. We have to see some of it poetry and allegory
Amen! God is not a liar. And nothing is impossible for Him. @Carazaa
JBird · F
@Carazaa look, my idea of a God is very different from yours. So, technically, I am underestimating YOUR idea of God. And yes, I am
concerned about other worlds if they exist because who knows there's a chance they attack us. And yes, other worlds are important to me than that imaginary angry God of yours.
BiblicalWarrior · 51-55, M
@KimberleyAnne Actually, the earth was created in 6 literal days.
You cannot apply logic to something that was manufactured. We know from Roman records (the only proper records from that time) there were twenty or more such prophets in and around that time who called themselves the Messiah. The Romans executed all to them and then used the budding religion as a weapon.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
Is it possible that the bible is not true? Well if you believe God inspired or wrote it and it can't be untrue you are saying a God that can do anything can't lie. So...can God lie or not?
Carazaa · F
Sarabee · 41-45
You take it by faith
Sarabee · 41-45
@Carazaa god can not be seen but felt he is like the wind🤔
Carazaa · F
@Sarabee

So true. Yes I believe you are right!🌷☕️🍰

He is in the trees ha ha! It is so strange you say that. Because when I am walking the wind flows strongly by the nearest tree I sit by, or walk by even on a completely calm day. At first I thought I was imagining it, or it was a coincident. But if I pray under a tree, or just thank God like I do all day long there is this strong wind that comes, I am always so surprised. I live in a valley with no wind. I feel it is God to tell me "I love you and I am here for you. I will take care of you"

I even have a video where all the leaves are still around me except the tree I sit under.
Carazaa · F
@Sarabee I think he is in the wind too. 🙂
Darci ·
It's just a book you can write everything into it 😂😂😂
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Darci [quote]There he goes deflecting again![/quote]

Not a chance. The Word of God is solid truth through and through. Anyone who adds to it is a liar.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
It’s a book you READ! @Darci
Carazaa · F
@Darci Jesus made it clear in the last verse of the Bible that if [b]anyone adds to it He would add the plagues in the book to them .And if anyone takes away anything from the book He would take away the rewards of the book from them.[/b] Revelations 22
CharlieZ · 70-79, M
Carazaa, you know, I have faith.
Not, perhaps, your brand of it, wich is not the only one (and to say that the own one is the one validated by Him somehow is just human hubris).

But…

That way to use bad formulated probabilities to prove something is not the best way to convince anyone with some basic Math skills.

My full respects to you.
Carazaa · F
@CharlieZ I respect your opinion but I believe you are wrong! I cant prove it but I know I am right because what Jesus has done for me.
CharlieZ · 70-79, M
@Carazaa Carazaa, please, help me to understand what you are saying.

That because Jesus has done for us, we should make a fictitious and fraudulent use of Mathematics?
That because of Him, we should give false testimony on how Nature is?

With my respectst for you, lady, I choose to have faith in Him and, for the SAME reason, I choose to be true about all what remains.

He certainly do not need frauds to be praised.
AbbySvenz · F
Born of a woman..? Yeah that’s a tough one to fulfill 🙄
Carazaa · F
@AbbySvenz
ha ha ha yes that one no one can deny!
You are attempting to prove a series of writings, with another series of writings.

Both canons were put together
Between 95bce and 400ad.

The prophecies were floating around waiting for stories to complete them.

For what it’s worth.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
If you believe that then you'll believe anything. No wonder they call you blank page@Texasgurl
Those who research and understand how the canons were stitched together know more than either of us.

Read the history then decide. The fact that you haven’t lets me know about your world view.

As a side note. There is no they calling me anything here. If that’s all you have in response to my post. Then move along. You don’t deserve my time .

Remember the rules of SW and govern yourself accordingly.

Say goodbye speedyman!
✌🏻 @Speedyman
Carazaa · F
@Texasgurl The Bible is the original writing preserved by God from one generation to the next by hand copies verbatim in the original language. Until the printing press, then it was translated into every language in the world. Many of us Christians have translated verbatim from Hebrew and Greek.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
Not a chance.
Carazaa · F
@GodSpeed63 It is just statistically unlikely, and frightening people ignore truth. It is so evident that God warned us, and is still warning us through these stories. God bless you!
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Carazaa Same to you Carazaa. Did you get a look at my latest post on miracles?
Carazaa · F
@GodSpeed63 I'll check it out.
Painx · 31-35, M
I agree about the prophecies being fulfilled

Even so revelations too
Carazaa · F
@Painx God bless you! I have been harassed all morning on my posts! Thank you so much for coming to my aid!
Painx · 31-35, M
@Carazaa Remember what Jesus said

“Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

“Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.”

Stay strong In faith because you’re not alone
Carazaa · F
@Painx Yes so true,Thank you!
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
I know that Yeshua is the Messiah and that He was prophesied about in the OT however in the modern translations Isaiah 11:1 does not mention Him being a Nazarene.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@CookieLuvsBunny So some believed. Others had different opinions. Imagine their embarrassment when they realize they were looking for an earthly king when their Heavenly King was in their midst.
BiblicalWarrior · 51-55, M
@CookieLuvsBunny First of all, the word Immanuel literally means :God With Us". Secondly, Messiah simply means anointed one, and it is patently clear in Scripture that kings were not the only ones who were anointed. Priests and prophets were also anointed, and Yeshua was all three in one.
CookieLuvsBunny · 31-35, F
@BiblicalWarrior
If you read Isaiah chapter 7 it is clear the Messiah was an Earthly king. That is the reason most of the contemporary Jews rejected Jesus
too wordy - I cant lower myself to read the post.
@Carazaa why is that important ?
Carazaa · F
@MarmeeMarch Only if you want to know what's coming.
@Carazaa na - i'm good
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Speedyman · 70-79, M
Well it's difficult to convince anyone of anything is logical processes are as illogical as yours. The problem is you do not believe that a logical universe@SW-User
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Carazaa · F
@GodSpeed63 Amen!
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
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Speedyman · 70-79, M
Jonathan Frake? Or Flake? 😄@Kwek00
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Speedyman You mean commander Riker 🙄
TrashCat · M
I'm not sure about that but I will tell you that we didn't have to wait for evolution to run it's course for Shakespeare to write a sonnet
Carazaa · F
@TrashCat Well I am impressed that you will admit you don't know! Statistically very unlikely!
Magenta · F
The only thing not true, are the [i]interpretations[/i] of, created by the ego of humans.
Carazaa · F
Here are just a few prophesies that have come true.
Carazaa · F
Here are more prophesies.
MayaHope · 41-45, F

 
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