Are you in favor of the post office to switch to an all electric fleet
That is expected to bankrupt the postal service with unproven vehicles
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BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
CestManan · 46-50, F
@BlueMetalChick Hmm, do they have the same parent company as GM? GM has been on the brink of bankruptcy since like 1829.
And also, what flavor is that pop tart?
And also, what flavor is that pop tart?
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
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PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@checkoutanytime Just because a battery is bigger doesn't magically change the method of disposal.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@checkoutanytime Recycle them.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@checkoutanytime We're wasting more money right now by using old obsolete vehicles that are inefficient and unsafe. Not only do they cost money to refuel, but they need constant repair and money has to be paid in workers' comp to employees who get injured on the job because of faulty vehicles.
theAlchemist · 56-60, M
Nope. More batshit nuttiness from the environmental virtue signalers. Speaking of the environment - someone on this thread points out the issues related to mining minerals required for batteries and what to do with dead batteries. And then there's the high costs of converting postal garages and vehicles.......I guess the virtue signalers are too stupid to even imagine such issues.....PC dance therapy is more their wavelength.
theAlchemist · 56-60, M
@Stopmakingsense Shut up you fucking mental case! YOU are VERY CLOSE to being BLOCKED!
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@theAlchemist Awwww, someone's in their feelings. Do you need a safe space from the big scary environmentalists?
theAlchemist · 56-60, M
@BlueMetalChick Shut the fuck up and go find some people to rob like you always do, you fucking petty criminal.
SubstantialKick · 31-35, M
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@SubstantialKick Exactly. It's not "can we afford to upgrade this" but "can we afford NOT to upgrade this."
SubstantialKick · 31-35, M
@BlueMetalChick According to an article from 2 years ago, the average age of their fleet is [b]27 years old[/b].
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/usps-postal-truck-grumman-llv-fires/
Add that to the fact that their vehicles have been catching fire and dropping like flies. They are literally running those poor things until they have nothing left.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/usps-postal-truck-grumman-llv-fires/
Add that to the fact that their vehicles have been catching fire and dropping like flies. They are literally running those poor things until they have nothing left.
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
It makes sense and the idea that electric vehicles are "unproven" is just silly. And no that is not what is bankrupting the Post Office, the GOP having passed a law requiring the Post office to pay for the pensions in advance of employees not even born yet is what is doing it. But then again bankrupting the Post Office so they can sell it for scrap to UPS and FedEx is what the GOP intended anyway.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@nedkelly Notice how y'all never ask how much it will cost when it's another three billion dollars to invade another country, or five hundred billion to bail out some more banks, or another round of corporate welfare checks.
But the idea of upgrading the postal service's vehicles is "looney" and "bullshit." What do you care if the post office goes bankrupt? Y'all been wanting to privatize it for longer than I've been alive.
But the idea of upgrading the postal service's vehicles is "looney" and "bullshit." What do you care if the post office goes bankrupt? Y'all been wanting to privatize it for longer than I've been alive.
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@BlueMetalChick Funny how that works.
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BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
is that even possible? I know I've seen long distance post office semi trucks, I'm pretty sure you can't do that with electric. I'm kinda wondering when we figure out how horrible for the environment the batteries are/will be. both in mining to get the rare minerals needed for production and losing some along the way as well as the looming problem of what to do with the ones that have aged out of usefulness and can't be rebuilt or recycled.
Neosneo · 18-21, F
The post office was actually set up to be bankrupted like over a decade ago, because congresspeople who wanted to help UPS and FedEx signed a law that said the Post Office has to have money for pensions ready for 100 years in the future. That's why the Post Office is and has been in the red. The pandemic and the mail-in voting helped it along toward doom but the post office has been financially insolvent since 2006, and congress wants that to be the case because UPS and FedEx can offer much larger campaign contributions. In 2006 the Postal Service was profitable, so now Congresspeople say that the organization must set aside $11 billion dollars every year for pensions and other fees/expenses to allow private corporations to stay competitive.
The electric fleet would probably save them money in the long-run; however, they aren't going to survive in the long run.
The electric fleet would probably save them money in the long-run; however, they aren't going to survive in the long run.
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One of the stupidest ideas ever offered.
They should sell off the post office and retire the workers.
Electric is the most INEFFICIENT means to move objects over a distance.
Every mechanical engineer is aware of that.
So are honest electrical engineers
The hydraulic reservoir idea proposed in 2003, is absolutely the most efficient means to power vehicles who are frequently stopping.
They should sell off the post office and retire the workers.
Electric is the most INEFFICIENT means to move objects over a distance.
Every mechanical engineer is aware of that.
So are honest electrical engineers
The hydraulic reservoir idea proposed in 2003, is absolutely the most efficient means to power vehicles who are frequently stopping.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
Adogslife · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick People don’t write letters anymore. Bills can be paid on line from your bank account. That leaves junk mail, packages and the occasional piece of mail that’s actually important - though I’m not sure what that is.
The USPS is essentially bankrupt because few actually use their services and even fewer need to. That’s why they’d be much less obsolete if they were absorbed privately. That’s why their trucks are archaic. They’ll fail because paying someone 80k/yr to basically deliver junk mail isn't a sound business plan and never will be. And, that’s before benefits.
The USPS is essentially bankrupt because few actually use their services and even fewer need to. That’s why they’d be much less obsolete if they were absorbed privately. That’s why their trucks are archaic. They’ll fail because paying someone 80k/yr to basically deliver junk mail isn't a sound business plan and never will be. And, that’s before benefits.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@Adogslife Most people still get paper bank statements in the mail, along with a wide variety of state documents. And even if they didn't, the advent of online shopping means that packages are probably more common now than ever. The post office is just as relevant and essential as it has always been. Its competitors are privately owned businesses that just charge you more money.
Jimmy2016 · 61-69, M
🤔.....well the carriers are very hard on the postal vehicles. When the postal lady drops off our mail, she stops the vehicle, turns off the engine, walks to the mailbox and then walks back to her vehicle, starts the vehicle, drives to the next house and repeats the process, So say she has 200 houses to drop off mail, that's starting the engine 200 times on her route.
And every time I hear the postal truck starts it sounds like the engine is going to blow up....rat,rat,rat,tat,tat,tat......
I remember when poster carriers would walk their route and now they just drive up to every mailbox....
And every time I hear the postal truck starts it sounds like the engine is going to blow up....rat,rat,rat,tat,tat,tat......
I remember when poster carriers would walk their route and now they just drive up to every mailbox....
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
Yeah the electric vehicles will be an environmental disaster. Not only will they need lots of electricity (coal) they will leave a bunch of worn out batteries that can not be recycled. Then there is the danger of fire. Anyone see the Hanover bus barn fire?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick Actually there have been a lot of fires in Teslas etc that the fire departments just let burn out. Usual methods don't work. A buddy of mine if the fire chief in town and he was telling about the special training his crews are undergoing regarding lithium batteries. A long time ago I watched as an old vehicle was burning. The gasoline in the tank caught fire. The fire fighter put the fire out by putting his coat over the open filler tube. I have read reports of some electric vehicles reigniting 24 hours after it was assumed the fire was extinguished.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 That wouldn't surprise me. As far as electric vehicles go, Tesla is fucking trash. Just like everything else Elon Musk produces.
Remember when I mentioned the necessity of shielding a battery? Tesla tried attaching a battery to the undercarriage of the vehicle with no shielding whatsoever. Road debris would get shot up into the battery by the tires and start on fire. These fucking fools overlooked something that simple.
Remember when I mentioned the necessity of shielding a battery? Tesla tried attaching a battery to the undercarriage of the vehicle with no shielding whatsoever. Road debris would get shot up into the battery by the tires and start on fire. These fucking fools overlooked something that simple.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick GM and Audi have had similar issues. It has to do with the size of the battery required. The more cells that are added the more unstable they become. The voltage increase creates a lot of heat.
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BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@MarineBob They still do their job despite no funding, shit ass wages, unsafe working conditions, and having to deliver mail in dangerous neighborhoods. You call that being a sissy?
How about I pay you a starvation wage and tell you that you need to drive a truck that's a massive fire hazard through the ghetto and deliver mail. And then I tell you that you're a sissy even if you do it.
How about I pay you a starvation wage and tell you that you need to drive a truck that's a massive fire hazard through the ghetto and deliver mail. And then I tell you that you're a sissy even if you do it.
Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
Yes,of course. And Amazon, too, whether we nationalize it or not.
Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
@hippyjoe1955 LoL. But we're good with these toxic cars.
Why not just whine loudly?
Why not just whine loudly?
Virgo79 · 61-69, M
They can't get it right like they used to anyway.
Times they are a-changin'
MethDozer · M
George Bush2 bankrupted the post office. Intentionally.
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BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@MarmeeMarch The post office does most of the work for UPS and FedEx. Get rid of the postal service, and they go belly up too. Same with Amazon Prime.
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@MarmeeMarch Here is something to consider too. If the Post Office goes up entire states will lose postal service because it will not be profitable to deliver to Montana or Wyoming.