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Personally I’m good with the direction of the country and looking forward to the pending Democratic Party implosion.

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Pherick · 41-45, M
[b]EDIT: My man @jackjjackson got upset that my post below debunked his shit-post meme about the Presidents on Mt. Rushmore, so he changed the picture above. I am going to leave my original post in the interest of fairness.[/b]

Oh man, this is so funny. Do you actually know anything about these 4 Presidents?

[b]Washington and Jefferson[/b], Fought a war and setup a new nation against a Monarchy with right and liberties for everyone. It doesn't get more "Liberal Democrat" than that.

[b]Roosevelt[/b], He was instrumental in negotiating the construction of the Panama Canal, linking the east and the west. He was known as the "trust buster" for his work to end large corporate monopolies and ensure the rights of the common working man. Oh yea, that sounds like what? Oh yea .. a liberal Democrat.

[b]Lincoln[/b], the man literally sent us into Civil War on the idea that all men were created equal and slavery should be abolished. Hmmm oh yea another liberal belief.

This meme = FAIL.
@jackjjackson

[quote]Now you’re copying and pasting the material I used[quote][/quote][/quote]

Uh....yeah. That was kind of the point, my dude😏
First you embarrassed yourself, then you tried to save face, then you got called on it, then you tried to save face again.
So i'm just responding to you on the level you're comfortable with.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Ummm. Repetitive trolling. Very orgina. @Pikachu
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Letting the trolls have the rope to hang themselves eventually enables them to outgrow it and become adults. @TexChik
rottenrobi · 56-60, F
In my very humble opinion, if we could all have a common goal, it would be great. I don't really care how we get there, as long as we all agree on the arriving at the same place. I do agree that some big criminals need to be brought down, and some fresh blood put in their place. The right and the left seem to all be corrupt, they're both the same party as far as I'm concerned. We need honest people, who have ethics and morals, and care about our nation, not only the planet, and I'm not talking about the environment.
I understand why the right want so badly to see the left break, because my former party has been ruthless with their lies and cover ups.
Once the big guns are brought to light and Putin is off the hook, then can we just be done with all of the crying on both sides?
rottenrobi · 56-60, F
I've enjoyed your discussion this morning. @MistyCee @CopperCicada
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
You all make good points. I think there is more of a difference than in 2004 but more difference and choice would be better. It seems the two parties always gang up on and destroy a potential third or fourth party to keep thr two party stranglehold. The Dems in my opinion have gotten beyond the ability to become kinder and gentler. Thr anger has filtered down to the next generation of potential leaders. A great example is Corey Booker’s rant at a sympathetic witness at a senate committee hearing. Bookrr’s Goal was to grandstand but he came off as mean spirited. The footprint of the far left has increased in size to be greater than the footprint of the far right. I don’t frankly understand the media’s motive in taking that side and don’t think it’s becuase they are coastal elites. Coastal elites are a problem for another discussion.

Misty, I think we get out of this place by the Trump chaos ending the “establishment” causing a rethinking by both parties of who to appeal to ans how. Pat, I think the conservatives are more likely to be able to appeal to the center than the far left because of the anger and entrenchment of the far left. Copper, until we actually are free of the professional political class I think we are subject to pretty much the same thing from both parties unless thr far left is able to seize control of the Dems which is more possible than the far right seizing control of thr GOP. If anything the far right is losing influence over time. Rob, WJC proved that whoever grabs the center wins. All, this sub thread is intersting and has a lot of thoughtful contributions. Clearly not all of us view all of these issues the same way. However all should be commended by an iLife this rational civilized discussion on this subject. @MistyCee @CopperCicada @Subsumedpat @rottenrobi
Subsumedpat · 36-40, M
@CopperCicada In a way there is not, they all exist to spend our money just on different things.
I hear people tell me that they are happy with the direction the country is going. That generally seems to come down to jobs numbers and markets and a few points of the Trump-Pence agenda.

What I see is a country that is headed towards an irreparable social rupture if it's not there already.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Not at all. I personally believe the JFK assasination was directly related to his plan to return to the gold standard and reject the concept of “federal reserve notes” which have directly resulted in today’s huge national debt. @MistyCee
@jackjjackson Whew. Thanks for putting my mind at ease.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
In this regard Trump has the same agenda as JFK whixh is yet another explanation for the massive efforts to undermine the president. @MistyCee
Ramon67 · 61-69, M
I am also happy with the direction the country is going .
Graylight · 51-55, F
I wouldn't. A one major-party country is hardly a democratic republic.

Maybe we fortify both/all parties and engage in healthy, productive and robust debate to carve out the best roads forward.

Or we can keep posting memes.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
The problem with that theory is that in practice to far left fringe is now too full. They need to be cut loose. @Graylight
Graylight · 51-55, F
@jackjjackson Have you talked to an Evangelical or strict conservative recently?
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
There are not as many of them. I don’t advocate a one party system. Far from it. I am in favor of thr far left democrats having their own party and not forcing their agenda down the throats of more moderates. @Graylight
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
I think a lot of well meaning Americans see through the chaos and support the president’s policy while like me not being at all impressed with his be@WoodyAq
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
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[b]THAT IS TRUE
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@Northwest
katielass · F
@jackjjackson Interestingly, a new poll out shows 74% of Americans believe the deep state is in play. That's got to include a whole lot of dumbocrats would't you say? Maybe I should say a lot of former dumbocrats. lol
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
It is going to be very interesting when it all comes out. There will be plenty of surprises and a new Day for Americans. @katielass
This is getting more than a little weird. At the moment, the democratic party is still pretty much completely irrlevant, other than as a scapegoat for Trump.

They could implode, but its really hard for me to see that either party self destructing is a good thing for the other or the country in the long run.

But, on another note. who's that second guy?
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
True. However there is a long time and a lot that may happen prior to 2020. @MistyCee
katielass · F
@jackjjackson someone is completely oblivious to the news. of course there's a dem split. The frankenstein/pelosi wing or the ever more revulsive even more extreme left. Which faction will win.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
I think ultimately the loud left will bring the Dems down. @katielass
Northwest · M
Couldn't you a pick a properly written meme, to proclaim that you're been correct all along?

Out of curiosity, do you consider all the lies, told bv Trump, on daily basis, to be correct as well? I'm confused.
SW-User
This was helpful and changed my opinion about Trump. Thank you.
SW-User
@MistyCee He was in that movie about the boat, right?
@SW-User yeah. He is pretty hot, and not a bad actor either. I liked him playing Howard Hughes too.
rottenrobi · 56-60, F
@MistyCee definitely hot!
SW-User
Let’s rewind....and talk about deficits
Pherick · 41-45, M
@SW-User Those are at an all-time low right?
TexChik · F
@SW-User since when did Libs worry about deficits ? You guys are all about quantitative easing !
SW-User
Take a look at the history of government spending...who spends??

But conservatives don’t like to read...sad , really

I know the red meat you are going to run to is the 2008 banking crisis...which was a storm that was brewing since the 90s...

But the numbers don’t lie...

Oh, and I missed the party for the Donny milestone ....
🤣....head in the sand,with your ass in the air..

Tu es con!
@TexChik

 
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