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That is excellent. What I do, is when it's really really bad, and they usually are, Ha ha ha, I force myself to calm down and just concentrate on breathing in and out with deep breaths until it stops. That always seems to help real quick. And then I take MSM, which then stopped them altogether.
antisocialbutterfly · 22-25, F
@LadyGrace what is msm?
You asked me that before. Look below. 😊
antisocialbutterfly · 22-25, F
Ok
MSM...natural and won't hurt you. One in the morning.
antisocialbutterfly · 22-25, F
What is it?@LadyGrace:
@gabby: MSM saved my bacon when I had the worst panic attacks. No more. MSM provides biologically active sulfur, which is the fourth most plentiful mineral in the body and needed for many different critical bodily functions every single day. It helps so much with stress and depression. Also has many other great benefits.
Also, I'd be sure and get Colloidal Silver but make sure it is 10ppm, none other. MSM I get from Swanson Vitamins. The CS I get from Biotech Labs online. It is tasteless in liquid form. A couple T. a day.
Also, I'd be sure and get Colloidal Silver but make sure it is 10ppm, none other. MSM I get from Swanson Vitamins. The CS I get from Biotech Labs online. It is tasteless in liquid form. A couple T. a day.
Challenger1 · M
There is a very good breathing technique for panic attacks. Take a deep breath. Hold it for five second and then let it out slowly all the way. Then wait five seconds. Then breath in slowly for a 3 count. Hold for five and then slowly release.
What this does is takes control of an unconscious muscle and starts to give you control over your emotional state at the same time. At the same time it slows your heart rate and starts to counteract the flight fight mechanism.
What this does is takes control of an unconscious muscle and starts to give you control over your emotional state at the same time. At the same time it slows your heart rate and starts to counteract the flight fight mechanism.
antisocialbutterfly · 22-25, F
@Challenger1 thank you
rckt148 · 61-69, M
I know I have to walk easy ,pace my breathing ,,in through the nose out through the mouth ,,at a regular pace ,not hyperventilating ,,but at worst you pass out and breathing goes back to normal on its own
I have a bad valve in my heart that mix;s the oxygen so the panic is worse then a normal panic attack ,,,mine could actually be a heart attack ,I have had 3
so you can sit ,put you head between your knees ,,some use a paper bad and re breath carbon monoxide ,,I walk and pace my breathing ,
hope it helps
I have a bad valve in my heart that mix;s the oxygen so the panic is worse then a normal panic attack ,,,mine could actually be a heart attack ,I have had 3
so you can sit ,put you head between your knees ,,some use a paper bad and re breath carbon monoxide ,,I walk and pace my breathing ,
hope it helps
antisocialbutterfly · 22-25, F
@rckt148: Brother Rick, I had no idea you had this problem. MSM saved my bacon when I had the worst panic attacks. No more. MSM provides biologically active sulfur, which is the fourth most plentiful mineral in the body and needed for many different critical bodily functions every single day. It helps so much with stress and depression. Also has many other great benefits.
Also, I'd be sure and get Colloidal Silver but make sure it is 10ppm, none other. MSM I get from Swanson Vitamins. The CS I get from Biotech Labs online. It is tasteless in liquid form. A couple T. a day.
Three uses that MSM has gained the most notoriety for include: acting like an anti-atherosclerotic (preventing the hardening/thickening of arteries), chemo-preventative compound and natural anti-inflammatory. It also helps with hair loss. Helps me get around better. I wouldn't be able to walk if it wasn't for that. I've been bone-on-bone in my knee for over 10 years. This helps repair. No surgery for me!
Also, I'd be sure and get Colloidal Silver but make sure it is 10ppm, none other. MSM I get from Swanson Vitamins. The CS I get from Biotech Labs online. It is tasteless in liquid form. A couple T. a day.
Three uses that MSM has gained the most notoriety for include: acting like an anti-atherosclerotic (preventing the hardening/thickening of arteries), chemo-preventative compound and natural anti-inflammatory. It also helps with hair loss. Helps me get around better. I wouldn't be able to walk if it wasn't for that. I've been bone-on-bone in my knee for over 10 years. This helps repair. No surgery for me!
rckt148 · 61-69, M
@LadyGrace: my problem is a defective valve in my heart ,the one on the back side that mixs oxygen in the blood (People ask if God loves me why has He not healed me ,He did ,,I had to be broke again and shown who can make me where I can't take care of myself ,let alone start another company and forget Him again )
one of the trade offs ,is He keeps me humble and less self reliant on me and more on Him ,
but often I will have to do things that over exert me ,like helping a friend hang sheet rock I am no longer in shape for ,,or showing my grandson how to use a sling blade any thing that exerts my heart ,,
I work out with swords and nunchucks and sometimes I get into it too much and when I stop ,all the sudden I can't breath ,my heart can't get over 120 bpm and the I just stop what I am doing ,I have to bring it back down slow or all the sudden I can't breath ,I could probably hold my breath as if I was swimming and slowly go back to normal ,but for me I keep my heart rate up and let it come bacl to normal slow ,watching how I breath and soon the feeling passes .
I was attacked by a drunken member of my family a while back and no amount of talking was defusing the situation ,He had got drunk and hyped himself into a frenzy just so he had the courage to try and put his hands on me so there was no stopping him once he put his hands on people I love to provoke me ,I knew only a physical battle was going to stop this ,( I did stop Mom from bashing his brains out with a cast iron skillet ) he had already put his hands on people I love ,,I hurt him ,,but when it was over I couldn't breath ,,not the time to have breathing problems when you are defending your life ,,(and I do believe he intended to kill me ,I put him out of my motor home over crack )
But I have learned not to stop anything all at once ,,or then I panic ,nothing is more scary then you can't breath
but if I allow myself to panic ,then I hyperventilate which is also not good .
but it has happened to me enough I know what to do now ,and I have actually been able to use my experience to show others how to calm themselves too
I take 4 drugs every day ,,1 is to thin my blood so its easier to pump ,
the other makes my heart "Hit " harder then normal ,making the valve do its job ,
a 5 mg percocet for extreme pain 4 x's a day ,I refuse to take the Morphine ,Methadone ,30 0r 15mg oxys ,but that is what they try to put me on ,,I have sever spinal deterioration and nerve damage ,over 200 sensory nerves encroached from scar tissue from major back surgery ,but God is good ,,we manage my pain ,
I don't go back to showing Him I don't need Him ,,He lets me walk LOL
When and I know its coming ,the Government take's all pain meds away ,
I have proved I can quit cold turkey any time I want and suffer very little for it
the VA took my pain pills from me a few years ago and put me through hell ,
I was on so high a dose and for so long ,,they wanted to say I was an addict ,my only concern for my health was to get pain meds ,,one nurse even said I would be taken more seriously if I cut my hair ,(I have taken a vow to God ,my hair stays)
But it gave me great pride when I graduated their class"s.
25 people could now openly praise God ,(told until I came there they could only say "Higher Power",,It might offend someone to say God
Turns out,,,, only 2 who did not want to hear about Christ or God ,So my suggestion was to move them (you know so we would not offend them ) to a class with others like them ,none believers ,,,since most of us did believe ,
and I was graduated early as they said it was stupid for me to be there as its clear I am not an addict ,,and they did not know I had won my fight ,I had an unopened bottle of narcotics I had been reissued ,I was still seeing Doctors who could review my MRI's and override where one Doctor had advised I never be given pain pills again because I exposed he was not doing his job ,and caused not only myself but other vets to suffer every month needlessly ,so for a time ,He fixed me ,,show me who had who ,,but never think you have beat me in one round ,,
I was happy to share with the class I had my meds restored ,but I had not broken the seal ,,I wanted to show ,you can abstain if you want to ,even though my condition has been verified and now highly documented so I never go through that again ,that my condition warrants my Doctors having me on Narcotics long term .
But not only had I won my pain meds back I won the respect of my counselors ,the Administrators,but most important the 30 plus Brothers and Sisters in the all day long classes they made me attend ,
And they Never made me call my Father a star ,a tree ,my inner being ,,Me put the created above the Creator ,who made it all
OUR Father was Glorified ,,,we won the right to call Him GOD and Praise Christ .
A few of the teachers said they feared me in the class ,they just knew I was going to be a constant struggle ,they had been through bad experiences in Church and they wanted nothing to do with religion ,,but when I called for a vote ,
how many in here believe in God ,and all but 2 raised their hands ,,well now ,who is offending who ?the first commandment says no other Gods before God ,that means Higher Powers too ,(we were told it could be anything but God )
I said why would you suppress the very thing these people need for fear of offending 2? there is a class I was in that has nothing to do with religion ,they trust self help ,so why are they not in that class ,and let us who do believe speak of our experiences as thats what the class is about ,and not be interrupted ever time we say God with "Higher Power " ,,2 left ,problem solved ,,but one came back and hugged me ,He said he had no problem with God ,He has a problem with Christians who don't practice what they preach,,obviously I do ,and he respected my convictions ,I had won him back
I hope I showed them the difference ,,I am saved by grace ,but I need a Saviour ,
I am not perfect ,but I serve one who is ,,,and He said I can wear His armor
NOW even God has a hard time telling us apart LOL
I just felt lead to share that ,hope you enjoyed it
one of the trade offs ,is He keeps me humble and less self reliant on me and more on Him ,
but often I will have to do things that over exert me ,like helping a friend hang sheet rock I am no longer in shape for ,,or showing my grandson how to use a sling blade any thing that exerts my heart ,,
I work out with swords and nunchucks and sometimes I get into it too much and when I stop ,all the sudden I can't breath ,my heart can't get over 120 bpm and the I just stop what I am doing ,I have to bring it back down slow or all the sudden I can't breath ,I could probably hold my breath as if I was swimming and slowly go back to normal ,but for me I keep my heart rate up and let it come bacl to normal slow ,watching how I breath and soon the feeling passes .
I was attacked by a drunken member of my family a while back and no amount of talking was defusing the situation ,He had got drunk and hyped himself into a frenzy just so he had the courage to try and put his hands on me so there was no stopping him once he put his hands on people I love to provoke me ,I knew only a physical battle was going to stop this ,( I did stop Mom from bashing his brains out with a cast iron skillet ) he had already put his hands on people I love ,,I hurt him ,,but when it was over I couldn't breath ,,not the time to have breathing problems when you are defending your life ,,(and I do believe he intended to kill me ,I put him out of my motor home over crack )
But I have learned not to stop anything all at once ,,or then I panic ,nothing is more scary then you can't breath
but if I allow myself to panic ,then I hyperventilate which is also not good .
but it has happened to me enough I know what to do now ,and I have actually been able to use my experience to show others how to calm themselves too
I take 4 drugs every day ,,1 is to thin my blood so its easier to pump ,
the other makes my heart "Hit " harder then normal ,making the valve do its job ,
a 5 mg percocet for extreme pain 4 x's a day ,I refuse to take the Morphine ,Methadone ,30 0r 15mg oxys ,but that is what they try to put me on ,,I have sever spinal deterioration and nerve damage ,over 200 sensory nerves encroached from scar tissue from major back surgery ,but God is good ,,we manage my pain ,
I don't go back to showing Him I don't need Him ,,He lets me walk LOL
When and I know its coming ,the Government take's all pain meds away ,
I have proved I can quit cold turkey any time I want and suffer very little for it
the VA took my pain pills from me a few years ago and put me through hell ,
I was on so high a dose and for so long ,,they wanted to say I was an addict ,my only concern for my health was to get pain meds ,,one nurse even said I would be taken more seriously if I cut my hair ,(I have taken a vow to God ,my hair stays)
But it gave me great pride when I graduated their class"s.
25 people could now openly praise God ,(told until I came there they could only say "Higher Power",,It might offend someone to say God
Turns out,,,, only 2 who did not want to hear about Christ or God ,So my suggestion was to move them (you know so we would not offend them ) to a class with others like them ,none believers ,,,since most of us did believe ,
and I was graduated early as they said it was stupid for me to be there as its clear I am not an addict ,,and they did not know I had won my fight ,I had an unopened bottle of narcotics I had been reissued ,I was still seeing Doctors who could review my MRI's and override where one Doctor had advised I never be given pain pills again because I exposed he was not doing his job ,and caused not only myself but other vets to suffer every month needlessly ,so for a time ,He fixed me ,,show me who had who ,,but never think you have beat me in one round ,,
I was happy to share with the class I had my meds restored ,but I had not broken the seal ,,I wanted to show ,you can abstain if you want to ,even though my condition has been verified and now highly documented so I never go through that again ,that my condition warrants my Doctors having me on Narcotics long term .
But not only had I won my pain meds back I won the respect of my counselors ,the Administrators,but most important the 30 plus Brothers and Sisters in the all day long classes they made me attend ,
And they Never made me call my Father a star ,a tree ,my inner being ,,Me put the created above the Creator ,who made it all
OUR Father was Glorified ,,,we won the right to call Him GOD and Praise Christ .
A few of the teachers said they feared me in the class ,they just knew I was going to be a constant struggle ,they had been through bad experiences in Church and they wanted nothing to do with religion ,,but when I called for a vote ,
how many in here believe in God ,and all but 2 raised their hands ,,well now ,who is offending who ?the first commandment says no other Gods before God ,that means Higher Powers too ,(we were told it could be anything but God )
I said why would you suppress the very thing these people need for fear of offending 2? there is a class I was in that has nothing to do with religion ,they trust self help ,so why are they not in that class ,and let us who do believe speak of our experiences as thats what the class is about ,and not be interrupted ever time we say God with "Higher Power " ,,2 left ,problem solved ,,but one came back and hugged me ,He said he had no problem with God ,He has a problem with Christians who don't practice what they preach,,obviously I do ,and he respected my convictions ,I had won him back
I hope I showed them the difference ,,I am saved by grace ,but I need a Saviour ,
I am not perfect ,but I serve one who is ,,,and He said I can wear His armor
NOW even God has a hard time telling us apart LOL
I just felt lead to share that ,hope you enjoyed it
ExperienceDLT · M
antisocialbutterfly · 22-25, F
amoonlitbarn · 31-35, M
I won't say i am good but maybe recalling your fondest memories might help. That's when we are our real selves. Hope that helps.
antisocialbutterfly · 22-25, F
calicuz · 51-55, M
One word: Xanax.
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Nyanperona · 26-30, T
calicuz · 51-55, M
@gabby: Fair enough.
calicuz · 51-55, M
@Nyanperona: It just calms my anxiety, and no side effects, except for maybe for yawning a lot.
Nyanperona · 26-30, T
Nope! My counsler makes it seem so easy though....
antisocialbutterfly · 22-25, F
Sorry @Nyanperona:
Nyanperona · 26-30, T
@gabby: Its all cool she said it would be hard at first since thoughts that create issues happen so fast. So ususally you have to go back and re examine what happened. But i have hope
antisocialbutterfly · 22-25, F
Hope is good
lechatnoir · 22-25, F
idek anymore, are you having one?
antisocialbutterfly · 22-25, F
Starting to @lechatnoir:
lechatnoir · 22-25, F
antisocialbutterfly · 22-25, F
Thanks @lechatnoir:
tligtmsli · M
Have sex
No
antisocialbutterfly · 22-25, F
Ok@kekobaka: