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FreestyleArt · 31-35, M
It's impossible to ask this question because one side being plugged in by the Mainstream Media forcing Anti Trump in their minds. The other side trying to explain common sense to these people is becoming hopeless. I'm just waiting for a big wake up Trump return. There's no point of explaining. Just wait
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@anythingoes477 Not particularly but thank you for telling me how I feel.
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
Heartlander · 80-89, M
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Nimbus · M
@AbbeyRhode Sadly true! :(
saragoodtimes · F
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@saragoodtimes If it is 3 o'clock they serve ice cream at the seniors center Joe would hate to miss his daily dose of ice cream.
saragoodtimes · F
@saragoodtimes if I recall correctly didn't the main stream media make a big deal when Trump had a state dinner in Florida and got 2 scoops of ice cream after dinner. my how times change
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
plaguewatcher · M
i call bull.
Mr TRUMP Made the deal we would leave at the end of August
Mr Biden had to abide by that deal.
this is Mr Bush's war anyway and mr obama's and mr trump's.
yo know what else makes them different?
Mr T has a life full of lies bluster and failure.
Mr B (who I dont care for BTW) spent his entire life in "public service" and wel I think he has lied less
another difference? Mr T has done nothing but Whine about being a LOSER
Mr B has been pretty polite about that.
change your R&M Name to "Jerry"
Mr TRUMP Made the deal we would leave at the end of August
Mr Biden had to abide by that deal.
this is Mr Bush's war anyway and mr obama's and mr trump's.
yo know what else makes them different?
Mr T has a life full of lies bluster and failure.
Mr B (who I dont care for BTW) spent his entire life in "public service" and wel I think he has lied less
another difference? Mr T has done nothing but Whine about being a LOSER
Mr B has been pretty polite about that.
change your R&M Name to "Jerry"
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@plaguewatcher
I did not say you were, rather your were promoting Democrat propaganda by trying to foist the responsibility for the botched withdraw on Trump and his agreement. I say none of that matters, this withdraw was solely the efforts of the current administration and their military commanders. While previous Presidents certainly have responsibility for the ongoing war and its failures, the botched withdraw is Biden's responsibility and the responsibility of his military commanders.
Can't tell if you are being sarcastic here, but it really doesn't matter your opinion of the source. Is it accurate? Well nobody is denying this conversation took place. It's a matter of public record and that being true, its clear Biden and his administration knew things were deteriorating faster than expected and they did nothing with that information.
You're 3rd point is irrelevant. Doesn't matter who Trump made a deal with. The withdraw was solely the efforts of the current administration, it doesn't matter what Trump said or did, he's not President any longer.
I don't think intelligence botched anything, I think they knew this was happening. Again, its on the administration for allowing the situation to deteriorate as it did, and doing nothing until people started getting threatened or hurt.
I really don't know how I would handle this personally. I'll say this, the military is the LAST to leave. They leave after everyone else is out, not before.
I am not a democrat
I did not say you were, rather your were promoting Democrat propaganda by trying to foist the responsibility for the botched withdraw on Trump and his agreement. I say none of that matters, this withdraw was solely the efforts of the current administration and their military commanders. While previous Presidents certainly have responsibility for the ongoing war and its failures, the botched withdraw is Biden's responsibility and the responsibility of his military commanders.
2nd i REALLY APPRECIATE that you chose to post a source! so little of that around here. the daily mail like the new your \times DOES pander to it's "base"
Can't tell if you are being sarcastic here, but it really doesn't matter your opinion of the source. Is it accurate? Well nobody is denying this conversation took place. It's a matter of public record and that being true, its clear Biden and his administration knew things were deteriorating faster than expected and they did nothing with that information.
You're 3rd point is irrelevant. Doesn't matter who Trump made a deal with. The withdraw was solely the efforts of the current administration, it doesn't matter what Trump said or did, he's not President any longer.
I don't think intelligence botched anything, I think they knew this was happening. Again, its on the administration for allowing the situation to deteriorate as it did, and doing nothing until people started getting threatened or hurt.
I really don't know how I would handle this personally. I'll say this, the military is the LAST to leave. They leave after everyone else is out, not before.
plaguewatcher · M
@SumKindaMunster Nice to visit with a calm literate person.Civil Discourse can help our nation
correct, positing information characterized as propaganda does not indicate membership or affinity with a party. It DOES suggest that i ONLY pay attention to those outlets. My world of information goes far past any and all commercial journalist enterprises, left or right.
Can't tell if you are being sarcastic here,NOT being sarcastic, i truly believe that most news outlets DO pander to whomever is giving them money or advertising. NONE are immune to this kind of influence (e.g. Fox news or msnbc)
my Military contacts do agree that "Intell" was wrong, telling the bosses of both administrations here and also in the UK what they wanted to hear
Those i speak to in the Armed Offices spoke both of the bravery of those Afghans they worked with and the appealing lack of training, actin and discipline of the rank and file afghan troops demoralized . unpaid, underfed, and stoned as well. My Military pals say they did NOT expect any significant resi9stance to the talibs.
I too am mystified at how this might have worked better with what i have learned.
I must offer some respect to the last guy on the plane, The Commander of the troops there was the last boot OFF the ground.
and we MUST take care of EVERY one that helped us. AND their families.
I will close with The Powel Doctrine, which we should have followed in Afghanistan AND Iraq.
to paraphrase:
to use military force to achieve a goal we must HAVE a clear goal. we must come in with OVERWHELMING force, not some smaller more palatable operations. then with Sufficient force, achieve the goal, and then leave
correct, positing information characterized as propaganda does not indicate membership or affinity with a party. It DOES suggest that i ONLY pay attention to those outlets. My world of information goes far past any and all commercial journalist enterprises, left or right.
Can't tell if you are being sarcastic here,
my Military contacts do agree that "Intell" was wrong, telling the bosses of both administrations here and also in the UK what they wanted to hear
Those i speak to in the Armed Offices spoke both of the bravery of those Afghans they worked with and the appealing lack of training, actin and discipline of the rank and file afghan troops demoralized . unpaid, underfed, and stoned as well. My Military pals say they did NOT expect any significant resi9stance to the talibs.
I really don't know how I would handle this personally. I'll say this, the military is the LAST to leave. They leave after everyone else is out, not before.
I too am mystified at how this might have worked better with what i have learned.
I must offer some respect to the last guy on the plane, The Commander of the troops there was the last boot OFF the ground.
and we MUST take care of EVERY one that helped us. AND their families.
I will close with The Powel Doctrine, which we should have followed in Afghanistan AND Iraq.
to paraphrase:
to use military force to achieve a goal we must HAVE a clear goal. we must come in with OVERWHELMING force, not some smaller more palatable operations. then with Sufficient force, achieve the goal, and then leave
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@plaguewatcher You might appreciate the interview conducted in this article, it gives a nice summary of the waste of money and incompetence of the Afghani's in getting trained to take over the country.
https://mtracey.substack.com/p/a-big-money-funneling-operation-afghanistan
https://mtracey.substack.com/p/a-big-money-funneling-operation-afghanistan
brian29715 · 46-50, M
anythingoes477 · M
lol lol lol Fabulous humor. lol lol Actually in trade for absolutely NOTHING.....Donnie the Con man agreed to let 5000 Taliban go from Guantanamo...one of which is now the new president of the Taliban and Afghanistan. ALL 5000 went back immediately to killing Americans. Instead of making any kind of withdrawal agreemwent eith the Afghani goveernment........Donnie the Con man invited the Taliban leaders to Camp David...on the anniversary of 9-11. Sooooo we are in Afghanistan to kill the people who attacked us on 9-11........but Rump invited the terrorist organization that did that to Camp David on the anniversary of the day they killed 3,000 of us. That is the definition of a DICK.
In return for Trump's giveaway to the Taliban he made them promise not to attack us while we were leaving. LOOK IT UP. How did that work out?
In return for Trump's giveaway to the Taliban he made them promise not to attack us while we were leaving. LOOK IT UP. How did that work out?
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