It's weird that people still think that Communism still exists...

My understanding was that Karl Marx proposed a theoretical society. One of the first things he wanted to do was eliminate religion. John Lennon sang of it...imagine there's no heaven...imagine all the people...living for today...etc., etc.

He envisioned a world without classes or elites...without sexism, or racism, or discrimination by country of origin. But he also realized that a country can't exist without an economy, and he imagined all sorts of ways to encourage growth, such as zero interest rates for banks.

Everything in his imaginary world was free. Free education, free health care...free food and blah de blah de blah...and all of that sounds almost word for word like Bernie Sanders and AOC. Social justice, social conscience would eliminate the need for God or the moralities imposed by the hope of heaven. And apparently the only way to achieve this is through bullying and violence.

We have had the similar but not identical sorts of Utopian attempts in the United States...communes proposed by the Shakers, for example...Here's a whole list of them. But they have almost all died out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Utopian_communities

The reason Marxism did not work when translated to reality by Lenin and then Stalin was the same reason American Utopias never work.

People are greedy and power hungry. People are lazy. People want to eff other people's heads so that they can rise to the top like cream by standing on the bodies of other people...like Bernie Sanders, who once lived in a commune and was the laziest person there. Never shared in the chores...but still expected to be fed. He is now a millionaire, and owns a mansion AND a vacation home in Vermont...and gets testy when people ask him why he flies a private plane.

I am not writing all of this to debate you. I am writing to point out that the USSR initiated a plan to destroy the USA that is still ongoing, and the plan has been taken over by the Chicom whom you say are mainly capitalist. The plan is so far along we will have to really wake up, and do some drastic things to stop it.


https://rense.com/general32/americ.htm

The plan was real, the changes the communists imagined making have become reality, and now the children they educated in Marxist inspired educational institutions are in the Democrat part.

It still exists, there is a member on here who's parents were members.

Possibly because the ruling party in China is called the Communist Party. Possibly because these days everybody gets to define words and terms any way they like.

footloose sorry i am not at all been sceptical in your post but are china not considered a communist country with communist ideals i am asking as i genuinely have no idea what the difference between communism / marxism

ezln. rojava. vietnam. nepal.

my bookshelf is full of modern and historical communist and anarchist writings, which i talk and debate about with my comrades regularly.

there has been a resurgence of both the far left and the far right now that neoliberalism has fallen. just because the right has an easier sell in these xenophobic times, that doesn't make it any less of a self-defeating ideology than it was 80 years ago. the left will win.

Most don't even know what Socialism is. Communism is similar. Another boogey man word so smart, greedy people can manipulate dumb people.

You are absolutely right. Communism is a great idea that never had a chance in this evil world.

If it looks like a duck, feels like a duck, and squawks like a duck, one can safely state it is a duck

Just curious, what about Venezuela and Cuba?

Yawns *